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03-15-2004, 09:53 AM
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Outkast
I told Outkast on Melrose one day last year that their OG fans wish they still recorded ghetto soul music/real Hiphop, like their first album felt, that they went way too Hollywood and 'soft' in their direction, and that we'll miss them... Because I know they are pretty much gone now, major player industry whores now... I told them, straight up, like I tell all of the artists who I once supported, but fell the fuck off...
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03-15-2004, 10:06 AM
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You're single-handedly making me not miss daily internet access.
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03-15-2004, 10:14 AM
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for real they're all not doing the same thing over and over again..doens't that just tick you off firstschool? because it surely makes me happy. Outkast gets better and better as they progress. you know as they grow older. since you know they were nineteen when southern came out.
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03-15-2004, 01:24 PM
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03-15-2004, 01:30 PM
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firstschool pretty much lives up to his name...waaaahhhh go baack to ninety five or i'll I'llll....
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03-15-2004, 01:45 PM
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Yo Firstschool, I didn't know people were supposed to stay the same forever. People change man, it's called EVOLUTION, PROGRESSION and GROWTH......try it sometime!
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03-15-2004, 02:04 PM
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their music means the same thing still. im just waiting for them to release a new album thats the best to date.... that will happen {i didnt like speakerboxx/love below} how could you hate on outkast, "i dont get it..."-dumb-c
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03-15-2004, 02:32 PM
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03-15-2004, 03:01 PM
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within improvisation lies the danger of music and within that danger lies freedom
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03-15-2004, 03:13 PM
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03-15-2004, 03:15 PM
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ANYBODY WHO CAME AT ME LIKE THIS ABOUT THIS THREAD, NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE AUTHOR BEFORE YOU COME TO CONCLUSIONS...
"Outkast by "selling out" aka progressing to a new level musically or you by trying to make yourself look superior through putting an accomplished group down?" I don't call cheapening wand watering-down soul music so that it is catchy is anything like "progressing to a new level musically"... It's called becoming an industry whore instead of working against the money machine that robbed Hiphop os it's direction, identity, purpose and principality(like not biting)... Outkast haven't made a record I can play, let aone put on a mixtape since their first LP... No Outkast on my mixtapes/CD's... SUPER LOW-BUDGET STYLE VOL.IV: KEEPIN' IT FRESH, WITHOUT TRYIN' 1. Devin The Dude - Doobie Ashtray (instr.) prod. by ??? Rap-A-Lot I swear this song sounds like a Primo production, but the 12” label doesn’t say who… I recently heard he did do it… Anyway, “Don’t front!”… 2. McEnroe - Take Me With You prod. by Roddy Rod Peanuts&Corn This little instrumental was the only rockable joint from this EP… So dope I kept it to put this instro on a mixtape… 3. Count Bass D - Jussa Player prod. by Count Bass D High Times This is the intro to the album, Dwight Spitz… An instant classic!… A huge breath of fresh air... And a big improvement since his ’95 debut… 4. Fat Jon - Triple Gold (1/3) inst. Counterflow This short instrumental saved this 12” too… which also featured a dope accapella by 5Deez for another song… 5. Louis Logic - Dust To Dust prod. by King Honey, JJ Brown & Louis Logic Solid Records This was one of several classic moments on Louis Logic’s pretty dope debut LP in 2003… Thanks for the shout out in your notes… 6. RZA f/Scandinavian Allstars (Diaz, Petter, Feven) - On The Ground prod. by Rza Virgin/EMI Wow, what the f-ck happened to this RZA? This album, The World According To RZA, featured maybe four great classics… I had to go back and listen to the LP after the first time, cause I just knew there had to be some good stuff on it… The R&B joint is dope!… 7. J Zone - Calamine Lotion part III prod. by J Zone Lex Records Thanks for sending this one to me when my records got jacked, it helped ease my pain… you know I gotta rock it… 8. Mobb Deep f/Big Noyd - Give Up The Goods (O.G. original version) prod. by Havoc YaHeard Records Oooooh… Big Noyd is literally killing suckers in this (different) verse… Some violent rhymes… Yo, Havoc&Prod, get back to Hiphop, f-ck the game… 9. Porn Theatre Ushers - Still P.T.U. (instr.) prod. by Mister Jason Detonator Records OMG, this beat is some crazy next shit… Can’t wait to hear the album… Mister Jason is one of the best… 10. Time Machine - Who Needs A Mic? prod. by Stoerok&Time Machine Glow In The Dark Don’t know these dudes, don’t need to, to recognize they deserve big respect… One of my favorite songs this year… B-side! 11. Diamond D - Check 1, 2 (instr.) prod. by Diamond D PayDay The legendary Diamond D will always be remembered among his teachas, Jazzy Jay, The 45 King, Red Alert, etc… 12.&13. Apathy - Night Life (instr,) prod. by Celph Titled OTS Ent. I don’t like the way they didn’t flip the Gangstarr beat… But the amazing bridge, was freaked properly by Sunny w/doubles… 14.&15. Emanon - Runaway/ Blind Love (instros.) prod. by Exile/Cheapshot Ill Boogie I play fresh, future classic beats like these and misled followers bitch at me, “C’mon man, play some west coast beats man…” 16. Little Brother - (Shorty interlude) prod. by 9th Wonder ABB Records This little short interlude was my favorite moment from this LP… 17. King Geedorah (MF Doom&Mr.Fantastic) - Anti-Matter prod. by The Metal Fingered Villain Big Dada I wish more of MF Doom’s stuff sounded as raw&fresh as this… I like all his stuff, but I like most when he gets funky like this… 18. Showbiz F/Maestro Fresh Wes - Fine Tune Da Mic prod. by Showbiz LMR Records Can’t nobody front on Showbiz, or this beat(or his little verse)… This is as fresh as it gets… What’s up with the new stuff though? 19. Def Jef - God Made Me Funky prod. by The Dust Bros.&Def Jef Delicious Vinyl This song gets better with age, and is evidence that Def Jef is one of the best… 20. Gravediggaz - Pass The Shovel prod. by The Undertaker&Rza Gee Street Records This joint was on the European version of ‘6 Feet Deep’, titled ‘Niggamortis’ in Europe… This song never came out in the US… 21. Funkdoobiest – Sunshine prod. by Ralph M. RCA The flyest joint from the disappointing Troubleshooters LP… They should have let Ralph M. produce the whole album… 22. Derek B - Rock The Beat prod. by Derek B. Profile A famous ‘Junkies’ Dj denied my request to play this record on-the-air…claimed it was ‘too old’... Let me know what you think… He also denied my request to break the Time Machine joint (track 10) that night… 23. Biz Markie - On&On prod. by Biz Markie Cold Chillin’ The Biz is another AC The PD mixtape regular… Proof that he is one of the best… Whatever ‘it’ is, he has ‘it’… 24. Too Short - Way Too Real prod. by The Dangerous Crew Jive/RCA From the last Too Short album that I enjoyed, Get In Where You Fit In… Too Short made more records I liked than 2Pac… 25. Poor Righteous Teachers - Word Is Bond prod. by Eric Gray and James Lee Profile Yes, yes ya’ll, another legendary b-side… I dedicate this to the motherf-cker that stole my records at The Larchmont… Records ain’t shit, I have all the music in my soul, you can’t take that from me… 26. Edan - Ultra ’88 (Respect Due) prod. by Edan Humble Mag Records This is the dopest dedication I ever heard about an older school pioneer by a newer school pioneer… Edan rules… 27. Eric B. & Rakim - Lyrics Of Fury prod. by Eric. B&Rakim UNI Records Ok, I dedicate this to all the sucker DJ’s who play Microphone Fiend, and never rock this… Sorry-ass single playin’ sucker DJ’s! 28. King Tee & E Swift - E Get Swift prod. by King Tee&DJ Pooh Capitol The King of the West Coast! King Tee & E Swift each kick ill-ass verses on this, my favorite joint off of King Tee’s 2nd classic LP, At Your Own Risk… And of course, E Swift kills the cuts!… All of these are @ www.HiphopPhilosophy.com
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03-15-2004, 03:16 PM
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The Greatest Mixtape of All-Time:
Hiphop Philosophy Volume I 1. 5 Deez - The Rock Rule ZZZZZZZZZ... 2. Biz Markie - A Thing Named Kim Some people think you have to play fast shit to make 'em dance. I don't... 3. Masta Ace - So Here We Are I was happy to hear this old shit recently... 4. Brainsick Mob - Mixmaster "Puffin' lah" (I hope you hear this one in your ride the first time)... 5. Heather B - Get A Job The B-side wins again (and again, and again...) Another Kenny Parker show... 6. 12 Jewelz - Shadow Of Death The piano is beautiful. It moved me. Respect to the producer (D..J.Greyboy)... 7. Audio Two - Get Your Mother Off The Crack My son's favorite song... 8. Promoe - Off The Record I never met a DJ who didn't want this record. Few have it (thanks DJ Third Rail in S.D.)... 9. Jedi Mind Tricks - Muerte From the best LP of 2000, Violent By Design. Check the bridge, and hook. Incredible, conscious shit!... 10. Ultimate Force - I'm Not Playing Out of respect to the Legendary Original Jazzy Jay... 11. Kool G Rap - Check The Bitch The baseline is gonna kick your ass! Classic verses from the best... 12. Virtuoso - Slicin' Your Wrists Check the mix, "anyone!"... 13. Brand Nubian - Kick Styles I thought they were coming back hard.... 14. Edan and Company - Syllable Practice The guitar pitch keeps moving, you keep moving... 15. Porn Theatre Ushers - Duck Hunt 'You wish you could be as raw as me'... 16. Mobb Deep, Big Noyd, & Roxanne Shante' - We Live This The greatest female MC of all time shows she still has it... 17. Son Of Bazerk - J. Dubs Theme A masterpiece of a B-side... 18. Grand Puba - Off The Hook I thought he was coming back hard... 19. Freestyle Fellowship - Hungry I was hoping they would record loads of this shit after Inner City Griots... 20. Das Efx - What More Can I Say? Where the fuck did this song come from? I heard Rob One put it out... 21. Boogie Down Productions - Feel The Vibe, Feel The Beat No record means more than this one to me. The greatest at his best... 22. Big L - Eight Is Enough Eight killer verses! One killer classic beat & bass line!... 23. Mighty Casey - Mighty Check the way he rhyme, quick-fast on time... The Greatest Mixtape of All-Time: Hiphop Philosophy Volume II 1. Too Short - In The Trunk (Premier RMX) 'What if Primo did a track for Too Short?...'. Well here it is!... 2. Lord Finesse f/Percy P - Kicking Flavor With My Man Percy P kicks one of my all-time favorite verses... 3. Clockworx - Beat This rare-ass record recently came up missing. I'll kill the thief... 4. Cormega - You Don't Want It One of my favorite battle records... 5. Necro - Fuck You To The Track You can be as raw as Necro, but not more... 6. People Under The Stairs - Bonus Track f/Eddie Van Halen B-side bonus, baby!... 7. Leaders of the New School - Time Will Tell From the most slept-on LP's list. Remembering Busta Rhymes... 8. Craig G - I Hate Hip Hop From The Process Of Elimination comp. The sucker DJ's slept... 9. Tim Dog - Silly Bitch You can be as sassy as Tim Dog, but not as hated... 10. Mighty Casey - Saturday Night One of two artists on vol. I&II. And he deserves it... 11. Looptroop - Long Arm Of The Law Promoe returns on vol.II with a vengeance... 12. Seven L & Esoteric - Protocol On this song, vol. II steps up to the level of vol. I... 13. Guttamouf & Ant Diglah - Get This Dough (RMX) The tracks listed on this single were wack. This song isn't listed... 14. Black Sheep - Still In The Ghetto Everybody loves this song, if they know it... 15. Dream Warriors - Follow Me Not 'Who is more a fool? The fool or the fool who follows the fool?...' 16. Leaders of the New School - Shining Star Just when you thought you heard all their shit... 17. Stetsasonic - Uda Man A lot of great DJ's still sleep on some Stet... 18. M.F.Doom - Rhymes Like Dimes One of two slept-on classics from the Operation Doomsday LP... 19. Substantial - Home Sweet Home Vol. II's b-boy anthem... 20. DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince - Rock The House I bet some of you forgot the Fresh Prince used to really be fresh... 21. Slick Rick - King Fake so-called 'underground' DJ's play singles, and sleep on this... 22. Antibiotics - Tippy-Toe Heckler The first to use this sample. Unreleased, unavailable, undeniable!.. 23. Jamal-Ski - Akbar's Groove The prototype ultimate classic hip hop song. Beat, rhymes, breaks, bridges, hook, loops, PERFECT! SUPER LOW BUDGET STYLE: STILL BROKER THAN F-CK! VOLUME I MIXED BY DJ A.C. THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR 1. A.C. The Program Director vs. Jigga - Live On-The-Air (Wake Intro Intro II) "Just answer the damn question"... 2. Roxanne Shante & Biz Markie - The Def Fresh Crew ('85) The song and the last (#22) are my dedications to the beatbox... One of the most memorable Hiphop recordings of all-time... This is who 'you know who' was biting... This is the original, not the wack re-recording... 3. M.A.X. (Clutch Shooters) - My Inner Soul IV (The Masterpiece) This instrumental deserves the respect... It's not easy to get on my mixtapes... Special thanks to M.A.X., my CD's would not have come out yet without you... 4. Boogie Down Productions (KRS-One) - 30 Cops or More Not included on the Edutainment LP... Prototype Hiphop/reggae joint... Very slept-on!... 5. Aim f/Diamond D - The Omen New Diamond D shit!... He brings back that early 90's fresh... This Aim-produced version, surprisingly, I like more than the Diamond D remix... 6. Chi Ali - Chi Ali vs. Vanilla Shake The most slept-on joint from 'The Fabulous Chi Ali' LP... I always loved this beat... 7. Doujah Raze - Looking up (instrumental) A.C. speaks, and rhymes... This b-side beat is extremely slept-on... 8. A.C. Speaks With His Hands (sucker DJ medley) Inspired by and dedicated to the sucker DJ's with no ear... Some have one, some don't... Not everyone was meant to do this... 9. Da Lench Mob f/Ice Cube - All On My Nut Sac One of the last two classic joints Ice Cube ever made, both from Da Lench Mob's first LP, Guerillas In The Mist (se: You And Your Heroes)... What happened Cube? You used to be so fresh... 10. Gangstarr - Dough In Advance (unreleased) Not on any LP... Guru told me it's never coming out, but I saw a few bootlegs last year at Amoeba&Arons, damnit!... I have been playing this joint for three years... 11. Large Professor - Bullshit (unreleased) From the unreleased Geffen Large Professor LP... I had this song in '95, and my EX-homie jacked me for it... 12. Melodramatic - Letting Go Of That #4 on this singles' B-side... Very fresh, catchable beat... The A&B sides weren't nearly as dope, and I had to mix in the next record real quick before the corny singing comes in and kills the vibe... 13. Compton's Most Wanted - Whose Is It? (Give It Up II) Very dope, classic, slept-on B-side... Too many kids don't know or care enough about what CMW meant and still means to Hiphop music... Three classic LP's... To me, this group means more to Hiphop than most of the current so-called 'underground' self-proclaimed legends every will... 14. Mighty Casey - Making Sure The only artist on each of my first three mixtapes/CD's... Soon to return, reside and claim his Cali respect... 15. Laq Nun - Weigh Scales Most slept-on joint from the Mission Control comp.... I even slept for a minute... Dirty, raw and fresh! Just like my mixtapes... 16. Alliance - I've Found ('88, unedited for first time) From the legendary First Priority (Audio Two) producer King Of Chill... Like Mahogany (Eric B & Rakim), a great example that a Hiphop love song can be done without being corny or watered-down... Thanks for the tip Marvski (What's up with a gig, gee? )... 17. Porn Theatre Ushers - Catnip Rare classic single.... Mr. Jason is a great slept-on producer/DJ... I'm sorry we haven't been able to put them on a 3rd Place show yet... 18. Kool Keith f/Tim Dogs' - I Ain't Havin' It Kool Keith rocks this slept-on joint from Tim Dog's infamous Penicillin On Wax LP... I just put Keith's verse on this mix, and I know Tim ain't a great MC, but he made a lot of good music... Two good LP's, some classic joints... 19. Mobb Deep - Shook Ones (exclusive fresh remix) Fresh mix for all you sucker DJ's who killed this song because you couldn't think of anything else to play, i.e. Tried By 12, MC's Act Like They Don't Know, Buddy, Come Clean, Times Up, etc.... 20. Jeru The Damaja - Great Solar Stance Dopest and most slept-on joint from Jeru's dissappointing post-Primo, Super Human Klik LP... If only the whole album would have been this good... 21. Louis Logic f/Grand Agents' - Service The Target I had to put this verse on a mix... The very slept-on Louis Logic steals the show... 22. Skinny Boys - Jockbox (America Loves The Skinny Boys) ('85) The grand finale! Too many kids don't know about this mid-80's classic... Pure, high energy, ultra-fresh, timeless Hiphop music!...
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03-15-2004, 03:18 PM
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ThaFormula.com Presents….
Fuck Tha Police! 1. N.W.A. - SaPrize (Part 2) prod. by Dr. Dre (Ruthless) No Matter how much time Dr.Dre wastes making rap music, pimping Eminem, biting and recycling himself and the whole Chronic, G-Funk style and sound, you can never take away what he did for the evolution of producing Hiphop music, or what N.W.A. did for police brutality awareness… 2. Poor Righteous Teachers - Dreadful Day prod. by Clark Kent (Profile) This song and the album, The New World Order, are as slept-on as it gets... I could not believe how hard and fresh PRT came back, or how hard fools slept... 3. Cypress Hill - Pigs prod. by Muggs (Columbia/Ruffhouse) This is the first song on the timeless, classic first Cypress Hill LP... Oh, how I miss this Cypress Hill... 4. Compton's Most Wanted-One Time Gaffled Em’Up prod. by UnKnown & DJ Slip (Orpheus) Whoever was responsible for the fresh quality of CMW's first three LP's... Please stand up, identify yourself, and give me a call... I just basically wish I could ask you to do it one more time for us, please??? 5. 50/50 - Hamburger Hill prod. by Marley Marl (R2 Records) I'll never forget the first time I heard this song on the Wake Up's Pirate Radio with Pete Rock and Marley Marl, back when the Wake Up Show was at least still fresh sometimes... Marley's production and the rhymes like "...Took the case to trial. The verdict, not Guilty. The cops more than dirty, the fuckin' cop's filthy..." The rawness, blew my mind that night... 6. Yo-Yo - Letter To The Pen prod. by ??? (Street Knowledge) (East/West) One of several Yo-Yo joints from her few LP's that were shamelessly overlooked by DJ's... I am proud of this mix and very relieved to finally make this song available to you again... This is gangsta Hiphop... 7. Capone-N-Noreaga - Parole Violators prod.by Tragedy (Penalty) Heavily slept-on by sucker DJ’s, this joint was the dopest cut on CNN’s first LP, The War Report… Right before Nore was swallowed up by the industry… 8. School Of Hard Knocks-Road To The Precinct prod.by The SpearChuckers (Wild Pitch) Don't be a sucker DJ, and think you know all you need to know to be a good Hiphop DJ, without doing the knowledge and learning the music history of Hiphop's forgotten past classic record makers, like this group... 9. Dr.Dre - The Day The Niggaz Took Over prod. by Dr.Dre (Interscope) ....Please!? Dre? Make some more classic Hiphop records... Please!?... 10. Wise Intelligent - Freestyle (A Conscious Lyric) prod. by 6-19 for SlangSpit (Profile) Wise and PRT carried the torch into the late 90’s for PE, BDP, The Native Tongues and X Clan, leaving the fake-ass hip-hop industry, 'keep it real', so- called 'underground' gimmick in the dust... 11. Get The Fist Movement - Get The Fist prod. by DJ Pooh (Polygram/DaBomb) King Tee, Yo-Yo, MC Eight, B Real, JD, Kam, Threat and Ice Cube collaborated on this song to protest against police brutality, in the same fashion that the Self-Destruction Movement addressed 'black-on-black" crime... And this contribution to the art form is every bit as significant, important and fresh!… 12. Main Source - Just A Friendly Game Of Baseball (fresh remix) prod. by ??? (Wild Pitch) This remix just came out on the double-vinyl repress of Main Source's classic debut LP, Breaking Atoms... 13. Showbiz & A.G. - Ain't No Fun prod. by Showbiz (white label) 'You can only be as good as the best...' Only the first verse was relative to the subject matter of police, so if you want a dub of this whole song, hit me up... I heard A.G. and Showbiz ain’t working together, or even getting along, right now… If that’s true, that’s wack! 14. Ed O.G.&DaBulldogs f/Ace & Quan and Def Jeff prod.by TeddyTed, Special K & Joe Mansfield (Polygram) Two real living legends, Boston's Ed O.G., and LA's Def Jeff... 'What could be better...?' 15. Mobb Deep - Cop Hell (Primo RMX) (Noo Trybe) On their first LP. Juvenile Hell, Mobb Deep produced only two songs, and they were the only two tracks I really liked a lot on it, Hit It From The Back & Hold Down The Fort… until Primo remixed this track… 16. Tim Dog - If I Was A Cop prod. by Tim Dog (Columbia/Ruffhouse) This song makes me crack up every time Tim Dog says that if he was a cop he'd 'take from you. You and you, and you and you, and you!' He's a great example of why I don't think you have to be a great 'lyricist' to be a good MC or to make great songs. Your style must be an effortless manifestation of your soul, not a staged, theatrical, effort... And I like sassy, smart elic MC's like Tim, Milk D, Lyte, Shante, etc.... 17. X-Clan - F.T.P. prod. by Jason Hunter, L. Robert Carson & Claude Gray (Polydor) With X-Clan, it didn't matter if the concept or the beat wasn't always original, they always had a way of being, staying and making it fresh anyway... 18. Jeru The Damaja - Invasion prod. by Primo (Payday) Primo used to produce Jeru and Group Home's shit for free! And they skipped camp? Proof that people are not nearly as smart and intelligent as we think we are... 19. Pharcyde - Officer prod. by J Swift (Delicious Vinyl) I just graduated high school when this song came out, and we all could relate in a major way to this crazy funny, stupid-fresh song... Like so many others, too bad Pharcyde couldn't stay fresh like they used to be... Hiphop, I think of as, the art of being and staying fresh... 20. Ice Cube - The Bomb prod. by Sir Jinx and The Bomb Squad (Ruthless) My favorite song from Cube's classic first solo LP. Damn it, I would love to see Cube perform the first two LP's and the EP, live. Everybody tells me that he won't do it. That sucks, like everything he's put out since Death Certificate... 21. Dead Prez - Dem Crazy prod. Rook & Marc Batson (EMI/Loud) This Dead Prez joint was one of a couple dope joints from the 'Black&White' soundtrack... This is a special request by my bro Med over at the ThaFormula.com... All of these are @ www.HiphopPhilosophy.com
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03-15-2004, 03:28 PM
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