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[3OF9]

i've been trippin bout this for ages......

i download mp3's......
without downloading mp3s i never would have knew about LL....
mp3's make $0 for anyone (artist, label, etc.).......
artists like LL say their not in it for the money (UHB, etc)
why, then do they care about people downloading their music...
wouldn't they rather have heads all over the globe loving their shit and be hella broke? instead they want $, i understand they need to eat and have more creative time but it seems a little hypocritical....they wont 'sellout' with labels and shit cos they need full control and freedom with their music but i thouht is was about the music not the $.......

if i was in their shoes i'd probally do the same, but i think mp3s are good, one of the few good aspects of new technology...i'd want to get my music into as many ears as possible "for the love not the salary"...........

but i'd be mega pissed if i was grouch about crusader for justice....you should at least be able to release a finished final product before mp3's of it go up on the net.......

cos i know y'all have downloaded an mp3 or two......i started fellin really gulity for a bit cos it's like stealing but then i just thought: fuck it! So sorry to grouch and the crew but i'm gonna keep downloading songs.........even if i aint cool at least i can still pump a dope beat wit a smile on me face........

thoughts???.............

[amanda]

you gotta eat you gotta feed your seeds, thats my thought

[tgone]

Originally posted by 3OF9
i've been trippin bout this for ages......

i download mp3's......
without downloading mp3s i never would have knew about LL....
mp3's make $0 for anyone (artist, label, etc.).......
artists like LL say their not in it for the money (UHB, etc)
why, then do they care about people downloading their music...
wouldn't they rather have heads all over the globe loving their shit and be hella broke? instead they want $, i understand they need to eat and have more creative time but it seems a little hypocritical....they wont 'sellout' with labels and shit cos they need full control and freedom with their music but i thouht is was about the music not the $.......

Like Amanda said, they need to support themselves and their families. I don't see that as hypocritical at all.

Besides, I feel good about spending my money by supporting independent hiphop.

[S...]

Besides, if you can make money doing what you love, all the better.

I WISH the Legends would get a deal..... they fucking deserve it.

I'm all for mp3's by artists looking to get a name out (myself, etc) but why download music from an artist thats already established and has albums in the store? Support what you like. Consumers should feel obligated as well as the artist.

[tgone]

Originally posted by S...

I'm all for mp3's by artists looking to get a name out (myself, etc) but why download music from an artist thats already established and has albums in the store? Support what you like. Consumers should feel obligated as well as the artist.

I agree. I've found out about MANY artists via MP3. I doubt I'd be listening to half the music I do without programs like Napster and such. It's a great way to sample out an album before you pay $14-$18 for it.

[ElighFan]

hell i wouldnt listen to any music much less hip hop if it werent for MP3 downloading. i'm a teen and i have no money to buy shit and even if i did i wouldnt get a very good perspective on anything because it would limit the amount of music i could hear.

MP3's are the shit i love them. artists dont (captain obvious to the rescue) because they're losing money that is rightfully theirs. theres no reason to say that they're being unreasonable for wanting money for the things they do to deserve money.

i think there is a fine line between dollar signs in the eyes/selling out/bla bla bla and doing it for the love and expecting due amounts of money

[3OF9]

if i could go into a shop and buy an album i would just cos i cant be fucked using a computer...but there anit a thing for 1000's of miles.....

but i just think them caring about mp3s is not in line with the way they seem to do things.....

i know you gotta eat....they could get a record contract if they wanted MONEY but they dont, thats what i tripp on......UHB Biach

[adekt]

It would be nice if the LL albums were available on MP3's to download on this website. If the charge was $5 an album, I would pay for unreleased or out of print albums.

Just my cents...

[duffalocious]

Fuck mp3's. I have like one album an artist gave to me via mp3 and i hate em. Some times you gotta take a risk in buying shit. Thats kinda fun for me to find new shit thats just got bumples written all over it. And like i said its a chance it may be garbage(Like Darkleaf) but you can trade it in. Every one likes money and artist need the money from thier record sales. I also feel good bout suportin indipendent shit too.

[sk8mafia619]

Originally posted by adekt
It would be nice if the LL albums were available on MP3's to download on this website. If the charge was $5 an album, I would pay for unreleased or out of print albums.

Just my cents...

Thats what I'm saying! LL needs to get up in the new Apple iTunes Music Store, I would seriously buy all my music from there if they had the shit I listen to. Because the second I buy a cd it goes on my computer then my iPod. I rarley listen to the actual CD... Why change cds? I just plug my speakers into my computer and I have 1000's of songs right there...

[mrtx007]

www.soundclick.com/krionix (KRIONIX #1) www.mp3.com/krionix (KRIONIX #2)

[ElighFan]

krionix is dope

[seak]

yea man...download shit you can't buy.....cause without the support, there won't be the music

[3OF9]

I'D HAVE TO SELL EVERYTHING I OWN TO BUY THE CDS, BUT I COULD DO IT.........INSTEAD OF SAVIN FOR MUSIC GEAR, I COULD OF BOUGHT HUNDREDS OF CDS........IT A FUCKED UP COS IT MAKES IT ABOUT MONEY RATHER THAN MUSIC........i just think they should be HAPPY the musics gettin out there. & nothing less.

[amanda]

Originally posted by 3OF9
i just think they should be HAPPY the musics gettin out there. & nothing less. yea, thats a fantasy world where there are no crips or crackheads, that just aint the way life is. cash rules everything around me CREAM get the money, dolla dolla bills yall........

and as christina would say "wake up. support your local music scene"

[amanda]

.

[3OF9]

if you didn't already realise, we are living in a fantasy world.

anything is possible..........anything

and i wouldn't put it in the same catergory as breathing underwater. it's not that far-streched.....UHB.

[amanda]

Originally posted by 3OF9
if you didn't already realise, we are living in a fantasy world.

anything is possible..........anything

and i wouldn't put it in the same catergory as breathing underwater. it's not that far-streched.....UHB. sometimes.......when im chillin with the homies, drinkin a 40 (yea i drink 40s, dont hate) i pretend i dont have to go to work the next day, thats fantasy, but making money, that is real. dont get it twisted

[3OF9]

yeah DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS Y'ALL........you need $ to eat. Thats why i am at work now.....But at what price? are you gonna deprive people music for money.
cos gettin pissed off about people downloading your songs is basically not sharing your talent for money......

i just think this to be hypocritical of there way of doing things like "i choose to stay unsigned and hella broke..."

[bustanutt247]

Maybe its just me, but if they need money then put track on an ug lp giving reasons why they are going to go mainstream. if a fan loses respect for an artist because they want to make money for their family, then fuck'em, cuz family comes first, selling out is not trying to feed your family and everyone should respect that. once they get the money go back ug, like who cares

[3OF9]

Originally posted by bustanutt247
Maybe its just me, but if they need money then put track on an ug lp giving reasons why they are going to go mainstream. if a fan loses respect for an artist because they want to make money for their family, then fuck'em, cuz family comes first, selling out is not trying to feed your family and everyone should respect that. once they get the money go back ug, like who cares

yeah, maybe it is just you. i couldn't respect that shit. actors have no friends.

[hex]

I don't feel there is anything wrong with downloading songs as long as you are just doing it to explore and hear new ish.

If you download an album and like it BUY IT!

If what you downloaded isn't worth the money because it sucks drag it into your recycle bin.

The legends shouldn't worry about me. I do this and so far I have liked it all. Every time I go to dimple records I pick up a LL release.

(I edited it because it didn't make sence lol)

[mrtx007]

After you have it downloaded already, YOU GOT IT!
How many ppl really go out n buy it, then?
I agree that sounds like how it should be done, but does it really happen that way?
I know I have a friend who sometimes burns me copies of whatever he has new thats dope, w/out me even askin.
When I like something I always say, Damn I'm gonna pick up a copy of this, but instead when I do buy some music, I always find something else that I dont have already n grab it. I think I have only bought 1 CD that I had burned already, n thats cus I loaned out the burned copy n never got it back.
Dont think I have alot of burned shit though, I got 1000's of records, 1000's of CD's n a couple 100 Cassettes/Mixtapes I have bought or were promos. So I do support, I just notice I dont buy what I already have burned.

[amanda]

everybody downloads music, that aint no thing. some just get outta control. but you gotta support the artist especially if they are indy and your feelin their flow. buts its essential for getting outta print stuff and making booty shaking party mixes.

[hex]

Originally posted by mrtx007
How many ppl really go out n buy it, then?

I do!!

Like I said before... if I like it I buy it.

If I don't like it I delete it and smile because I didn't waste money.

My CD collection speaks for itself.

[hex]

Originally posted by amanda
buts its essential for getting outta print stuff

Definitley

If I can't buy it I don't feel too bad about downloading it.

I hope the artists don't mind. I can't help it lol

[mrtx007]

I got that much, you said, you do.

but I'm sayin, most people that download dont buy CDs.

[hex]

Originally posted by mrtx007
I got that much, you said, you do.

but I'm sayin, most people that download dont buy CDs.

Unfortunatley, you are very right.

[udergrnd*forevr]

support the artist buy the cd

[JamesKellyDawson]

artists like LL say their not in it for the money (UHB, etc)
why, then do they care about people downloading their music

i've never heard anybody from the Legends ever say that they don't want anybody to burn their shit. if it is true, who? and when? was that said? i once heard some shit that goes like "I know y'all burn my shit!!! Free copies for your homies, but it's all good cuz the love that they show me's almost better than the money." the way I see it, once you buy something from an artist or store or whatever, it's your choice what to do with that music. If you want to keep it for yourself so nobody will find out, more power to you. If you want to burn it for all your homies so they can hear some dope music, more power to you. If you want to put it up on the net so the whole world can download, right on. Whatever floats your boat. I've done all three of the above. I know I've helped artists out way more than hurting them. Spread the music now and the money will come later. Respect is first, not millions.
I once heard a wise man named evs say something that goes like this, "buy what you can, burn what you can't." Makes sense to me. Don't you think?

[hex]

Originally posted by ONE4'eleven"
i've never heard anybody from the Legends ever say that they don't want anybody to burn their shit. if it is true, who? and when? was that said?

Quoted from the Grouch:
"Stop burning and not buying. That shit ain't cool."

[tgone]

Originally posted by hex
Quoted from the Grouch:
"Stop burning and not buying. That shit ain't cool."

Yea, he said burning AND not buying.

I burn AND buy.

[mrtx007]

WHY DO YOU THINK ITS CALLED A BURN?

[tgone]

Originally posted by mrtx007
WHY DO YOU THINK ITS CALLED A BURN?

What are you trying to say?

Have you ever dubbed a tape before? There's nothing wrong with copying music. People have been doing it for decades.

I don't think the technology should be banned or made illegal. I just think that the people who are going to use it need more awareness.

Also, I'd like to add that I think artists should start selling MP3s. There's plenty of people out there that would buy them.

[mrtx007]

Here it is, the musicians/artists are getting burned.
& the sad part about it is its the underground artists who feel it the most.
Copying a major label artist who sells millions of units takes from their pockets, but they are usually pretty well stuffed already.
Copying from indie artists really has an impact though. Some a these cats are struggling just ta get the equipment it takes ta make music. Plus gotta spend a mojority of their time @ a day job to pay for it instead of using that time to create.

[tgone]

Originally posted by mrtx007
Here it is, the musicians/artists are getting burned.
& the sad part about it is its the underground artists who feel it the most.
Copying a major label artist who sells millions of units takes from their pockets, but they are usually pretty well stuffed already.
Copying from indie artists really has an impact though. Some a these cats are struggling just ta get the equipment it takes ta make music. Plus gotta spend a mojority of their time @ a day job to pay for it instead of using that time to create.

I feel you. But at the same time file sharing helpes promote artists. I wonder how popular the Legends would be right now if it weren't for file sharing programs. There's no way to really know though.

Anyway, I like to download tracks to get a sample of what the album is like. Then if I have money - I buy it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[mrtx007]

Originally posted by tgone
Anyway, I like to download tracks to get a sample of what the album is like. Then if I have money - I buy it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

No doubt, I agree, & now most artists have a few files on their sites to give a feel what the new project sounds like. & sites like sandbox offer sniplets of songs you can click on & hear instantly. I think thats as far as it should go though. Being able to burn an entire album from an artist without their permission (sometimes before its even available for retail) does its damage.
And for artists selling MP3's graet idea. But once you sell a few, you gotta do something to keep them from being copied & recopied.
I dont think the technology should be made illegal, but if you abuse it you should be charged. Just like a gun, totally legal, but use it to hurt someone or steal from them & bam, illegal.