New eyedea & ablities (e&a)

[diggingdeep]

anyway hear this yet?
how about al, i know you are a midwest fan of e&a... so curious if you have heard this and what you think.

i still need a listen before i decide if i am making a purchase on it. u sed to be a fan of eyedea, but not so much after seeing his side project acts.:o

[EagleToVulture]

Definitely need to check this out. Is it really experimental?

[diggingdeep]

Definitely need to check this out. Is it really experimental?

i dont think so. a little different than old e&a but its actually pretty dope so far. still need to give it a good listen before i can really tell you. but i am liking a few tracks so far:)

[hungry0ne]

It is DEFINITELY experimental. I am a very big fan of Eyedea, and this album is pretty disappointing to me. I don't want to discourage anyone from buying/checking it out, but it's pretty EMO. I've actually only listened to about 1 minute of each song, which is depressing because I had imagined I would listen to it start to finish when I got it. It's basically a mix between hip-hop and his band Carbon Carousel - yikes!

[alanp0099]

It is DEFINITELY experimental. I am a very big fan of Eyedea, and this album is pretty disappointing to me. I don't want to discourage anyone from buying/checking it out, but it's pretty EMO. I've actually only listened to about 1 minute of each song, which is depressing because I had imagined I would listen to it start to finish when I got it. It's basically a mix between hip-hop and his band Carbon Carousel - yikes!

I have to agree with hungry0ne, and that's almost painful to say. Eyedea was that dude 2004 and before IMO. One of my favorite artists and he was my favorite MN rapper for a while. His side projects have lacked though. Face Candy and Carbon Carousel (heard both multiple times) both sucked hard. Was not into it whatsoever. This new album has Eyedea's guitar playing on every track. And coming from a classic rock/alt rock/blues aficionado (as well as hip-hop), Eyedea is NOT a good guitar player. I saw E&A at Sound Set '09. The old songs were tight. The new songs sucked for lack of a better term (they certainly did not appeal to me). Dude can still rap, but he's completely lost on the hooks and choruses. Look at any of his guest appearances in the past few years.

Sadly, E&A may have seen the end of their open spots in my CD case.

[alanp0099]

i dont think so. a little different than old e&a but its actually pretty dope so far. still need to give it a good listen before i can really tell you. but i am liking a few tracks so far:)

Dig, don't get me wrong. There are parts of some of the new songs I like. Like the rapping for instance. Dude can spit. But certain parts are ruined by poorly played metal guitar and jarringly wack screaming. I have not heard nearly the whole album, but I plan to.

[Throwitup!]

I'm curious, how did some of you get a sneak peek to the album??

[diggingdeep]

Dig, don't get me wrong. There are parts of some of the new songs I like. Like the rapping for instance. Dude can spit. But certain parts are ruined by poorly played metal guitar and jarringly wack screaming. I have not heard nearly the whole album, but I plan to.

hahaha. i agree, after giving it a good listen, it isnt what i thought. the first time around i was busy updated some papers and random shit so i didnt give it a true listen. things i liked did catch my ear, but yeah, its not really my thing. i have never been into eyedea much in recent or more than recent times. saw him tour oliver hart i believe, ang got into him more then also after hearing first born. seen him tour a few times hes that dude i liked for a second, so i got all his stuff (minus the wack side project shit - i saw sometihng he did live as a side-group and it was stright horrible shit., but anyway, i really never caught on to the dude and he has yet to also impress me in recent years.


oh well. in one ear out the other with this one.

Al, have you peeped the sandpeoples Long story short ep, with 9 tracks?

[WesSezSo]

ya know we were supposed to get a demo from rhymesayers but all they sent was toki wright (which was good) but i'm still waiting on them to send the promo copy of E&A.

[diggingdeep]

ya know we were supposed to get a demo from rhymesayers but all they sent was toki wright (which was good) but i'm still waiting on them to send the promo copy of E&A.

bummer about the e&a...so the toki wright is pretty good?


so still no e&a for the shop? wack they forgot about that one but hooked up other spots...

[EagleToVulture]

The new Toki Wright is dope. Been waiting for an LP from him for a while. Still haven't checked out this E&A, though. Kind of don't want to be dissapointed.

EDIT: Alright, fuck it, I got the E&A. If the rest is anything like this first song, I think I might actually dig it. A lot.

[EagleToVulture]

Fuck y'all. This shit is way dope. Give it a chance it will grow on you.

Wes, you're gonna love this shit.

[alanp0099]

hahaha. i agree, after giving it a good listen, it isnt what i thought. the first time around i was busy updated some papers and random shit so i didnt give it a true listen. things i liked did catch my ear, but yeah, its not really my thing. i have never been into eyedea much in recent or more than recent times. saw him tour oliver hart i believe, ang got into him more then also after hearing first born. seen him tour a few times hes that dude i liked for a second, so i got all his stuff (minus the wack side project shit - i saw sometihng he did live as a side-group and it was stright horrible shit., but anyway, i really never caught on to the dude and he has yet to also impress me in recent years.


oh well. in one ear out the other with this one.

Al, have you peeped the sandpeoples Long story short ep, with 9 tracks?

Yeah, I'm right there with you, dig. I remember when Eyedea did his FIRST Carbon Carousel show in Minneapolis. Nobody knew what the hell it was. Nobody knew dude went with the whole indy rock thing. It just said Carbon Carousel featuring Eyedea (which was in big print). I and many others went to see a hip-hop show, but got this avante garde emo spoken word poetry indy rock mix. Then he just spiraled off into all sorts of weird directions. I'm not convinced he's better, but I'll give the new LP a open listen. The live cuts weren't great though.

I have not checked out the Sandpeople EP yet. I will check it out. I did watch the DVD. Thanks for that man. The whole package was tight. I'll let you know when I burn that Sandpeople and what I think of it. Just been busy lately, but it's like 95° out today and humid as fuck, so I should be staying in, and :p

[alanp0099]

Still haven't checked out this E&A, though. Kind of don't want to be dissapointed.

Same here. lol

Fuck y'all. This shit is way dope. Give it a chance it will grow on you.

Wes, you're gonna love this shit.

Really? I'm gonna pick this up real soon then. Even if I'm not feeling the direction on some of the songs, it's gonna be a quality album. Opinions to follow...

[diggingdeep]

its not bad... its just something i would classify as more "abstract" hiphop. shit i would classify a lot of anticon artist in. i like the music and creativity they got going on. plus usually their are decent flows on top of that. but having a crowd of ladies over, i most likely wouldnt bump sole, sage or e&a....thats just me thou. but on a six hour road trip with justy me and maybe one other head, this "abstract" style of hiphop is fully bumpable in my ride. the new e&a....actually all e&a is this way for me maybe minus a few songs.

this is better than the side project crap....

[hungry0ne]

If the rest is anything like this first song, I think I might actually dig it. A lot.

first track = one of the worst songs on there

[EagleToVulture]

first track = one of the worst songs on there
Fuck y'all. This shit is way dope. Give it a chance it will grow on you.
...

[alanp0099]

its not bad... its just something i would classify as more "abstract" hiphop. shit i would classify a lot of anticon artist in. i like the music and creativity they got going on. plus usually their are decent flows on top of that. but having a crowd of ladies over, i most likely wouldnt bump sole, sage or e&a....thats just me thou. but on a six hour road trip with justy me and maybe one other head, this "abstract" style of hiphop is fully bumpable in my ride. the new e&a....actually all e&a is this way for me maybe minus a few songs.

this is better than the side project crap....

Yeah, the "abstract" hip-hop is not my thing nowadays. I was all about it when Anticon & Def Jux were poppin', but I guess I've grown out of it for a more soulful sound that's easier on the ears...lmao...not entirely, I do like everything, but I may be getting old...lol.

So you'd play Sole, Sage, or E&A for females? You must know some different thinking females. lol

[diggingdeep]

So you'd play Sole, Sage, or E&A for females? You must know some different thinking females. lol

LMAO - i thought i said i would NOT bump the anticon roster with the ladies...hahahaha, the ladies i like - like the dirty "radio" music - without the radio edit.


yo al - i am going to be in the chicago/indiana area from july 15 -25th. i am down to make a drive if need be....so any good hip hop shows in the midwest as in your area to chicago - around that time? whats up with a big jess show? you hear blame one is retiring - his last show is in SD this weekend. might go and check it out, been meaning to kick in the SD area lately.


i have gotten over the "abrast sound" too for the most part, but still spin it from time to time to keep up with it. but maybe it is age, but i too like the more laid back mellow jams. :p that type of shit.

[EagleToVulture]

you hear blame one is retiring - his last show is in SD this weekend.
Whaaaat?

Deep, I'll be in Chi the weekend of the 25th for my friends birthday. Don't know of any shows but I'll be getting hammered.

[diggingdeep]

i am pretty sure i fly out the 25th...but am most def be in chi during that wed-friday before. if any shows going on i am going to try to check out, but if not i too will be drinking on...

when you getting to chi

[alanp0099]

LMAO - i thought i said i would NOT bump the anticon roster with the ladies...hahahaha, the ladies i like - like the dirty "radio" music - without the radio edit.


yo al - i am going to be in the chicago/indiana area from july 15 -25th. i am down to make a drive if need be....so any good hip hop shows in the midwest as in your area to chicago - around that time? whats up with a big jess show? you hear blame one is retiring - his last show is in SD this weekend. might go and check it out, been meaning to kick in the SD area lately.


i have gotten over the "abrast sound" too for the most part, but still spin it from time to time to keep up with it. but maybe it is age, but i too like the more laid back mellow jams. :p that type of shit.

LOL...I read that wrong. lol

I'll have to check out some shows around that time. Not really a clue as of now. And I did hear about Blame One retiring. Too bad! Especially since I just heard about him not too long ago.

[EagleToVulture]

i am pretty sure i fly out the 25th...but am most def be in chi during that wed-friday before. if any shows going on i am going to try to check out, but if not i too will be drinking on...

when you getting to chi
I'm not sure if we're driving out the 24th or 25th. We'll probably be barcrawling in downtown Chi, Bourbon Street and shit. Should be a good time.

[diggingdeep]

I'm not sure if we're driving out the 24th or 25th. We'll probably be barcrawling in downtown Chi, Bourbon Street and shit. Should be a good time.

fuck ya... i did that in downtown chi a few years back if not a little longer. shit was great. cant really remember, but i think the bars either never closed or closed out at 4am. it beats CA where shit closes at 2am....and if your in a yeppy town/ newer town in so cal, they try to shut the city down at midnight...nor let a bunch of clubs and music venues go up....lame! fuck that, i like rukus to take place at night.

i might be missing ur appearence in chi town by one day.... if thats the case, i'll leave a present for you...

besides the wack whether of being (most of the time) either too hot or too cold and with no mountains to snowboard - chicago is a fun place to visit. i dig on their italian beef sandwiches. how come people cant make shit like that elsewhere?
also just got back from a trip to hawaii as well. now that trip was ill
http://www.accesshiphop.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=762&stc=1&d=1245954253feed the fucking fish homez (with the same camera i take to shows)- dont worry about it, i got better pics, but those will cost you.:)

[Space Ventura]

trash

[alanp0099]

trash

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[diggingdeep]

trash

do you care for any of the e&a discog?

i give e&a credit for what they have done, but nothing is a classic in my opinion book....but thats just me. they have always been more on this abstract hiphop vibe.:o

[alanp0099]

do you care for any of the e&a discog?

i give e&a credit for what they have done, but nothing is a classic in my opinion book....but thats just me. they have always been more on this abstract hiphop vibe.:o

Except on "E&A". That one was a pretty straight forward DJ/emcee battle rip-that-shit-up style hip-hop album IMO. I'm still sleeping!!! I gotta get this (the new one) soon...

[diggingdeep]

Except on "E&A". That one was a pretty straight forward DJ/emcee battle rip-that-shit-up style hip-hop album IMO. I'm still sleeping!!! I gotta get this (the new one) soon...

well hell....just let me know what you think:p

be back in an hour.....

[diggingdeep]

so any luck finding it? what do you think? its been leaked all over the net to my knowledge...people playing the album and shit on their sites....

[Mixtapebrothers]

One word for this album.......... Dope :bow:

[EagleToVulture]

One word for this album.......... Dope :bow:
Yup. Still bumping it consistently, keeps getting better.

[alanp0099]

Label me a hater if you want Eagle, but this shit is NOT good IMO. lol

It's really quite sad. I can't say I liked anything about this album...even his rapping for the most part bored me and seemed uninspired. And the production was mostly bad IMO. This is the sound of Eyedea maturing. Not a good look IMO!

[EagleToVulture]

Label me a hater if you want Eagle, but this shit is NOT good IMO. lol

It's really quite sad. I can't say I liked anything about this album...even his rapping for the most part bored me and seemed uninspired. And the production was mostly bad IMO. This is the sound of Eyedea maturing. Not a good look IMO!
That's too bad. Different strokes, I guess. I really like it though.

[alanp0099]

That's too bad. Different strokes, I guess. I really like it though.

I guess I'm too busy measuring it against other E&A/Eyedea albums. I just don't like the change, the new vibes, Eyedea's guitar playing, the screaming, the seriousness, the hooks, the choruses, etc. Eyedea was one of my favorites, and I just don't like the fact he is maturing (which feels forced to me) without really settling into his hip-hop persona more. The dude has never released two albums that sound the same. First Born, Oliver Hart, E&A...all different vibes. He was still finding himself. I have just been hoping he'd expand on that style and eventually perfect it instead of inducing the E&A album full of vibes that he used on the Face Candy & Carbon Carousel records. Just saying, if I want to hear something like this, I'd listen to a rock/metal vocalist, and somebody who can actually play guitar well. I won't say it's bad, but I personally cannot see the good in it.

[C. Tran]

Eyedea is a wack version of Eminem.

[alanp0099]

Eyedea is a wack version of Eminem.

Don't pay attention to C. Tran. You'd think E&A is actually Ace Of Base judging by how many shots he takes at him. lol

Oh, and BTW, Eyedea is nothing like Eminem. lol

[hungry0ne]

Oliver Hart

This was his best work by far.

[diggingdeep]

This was his best work by far.

i dig that one too....and really the only one i played a decent amount of times.

[Goodbarz]

I can't stand eyedea

to me he is terrible, can't stand his voice..

[C. Tran]

I can't stand eyedea

to me he is terrible, can't stand his voice..

lol cosign 100%!!!!!!!! :dance:

[diggingdeep]

I can't stand eyedea

to me he is terrible, can't stand his voice..

LOL

i can def see that being an issue....

[EagleToVulture]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AujX8qpMmkc
Eyedea is fucking crazy. And DJ Abilities is sick on the table at the end there.

[Throwitup!]

The title track "by the throat" is flippin amazing! I was wow'ed on that one fer sure! Still listening to the lp on myspace so can't have a take yet, but so far sounds progressive.

[sd2la87]

ya you guys are trippin this ablum is way tight, give them some props for trying something different and trying to expand hip-hop. Eyedea is crazy as usual on the mic

[cas1]

E&A's set at Paid Dues was a nightmare.Nothing but screaming,the crowd wanted to hear some Hip-Hop.
Same thing with Cage,he was probably even worse.
It was on some Hipsterwhiteboycomplainingcutwristtightpantstypavibe

[alanp0099]

E&A's set at Paid Dues was a nightmare.Nothing but screaming,the crowd wanted to hear some Hip-Hop.
Same thing with Cage,he was probably even worse.
It was on some Hipsterwhiteboycomplainingcutwristtightpantstypavibe

Exactly! Same thing at Sound Set '09.

And to be honest, the crowd loved the old E&A material. But they were absolutely hating the new shit.

I have not been able to make it through a full 3rd listen. And the shit is only like 30 minutes long.

[tabascospam]

not that much of a follower, but i got a hook up to watch their show, so i went, fuck it. honestly, e&a should've been headlining that shit instead of that atmosphere. eyedea's lyrics are more harder.....sorry!!!! but not really.

[alanp0099]

not that much of a follower, but i got a hook up to watch their show, so i went, fuck it. honestly, e&a should've been headlining that shit instead of that atmosphere. eyedea's lyrics are more harder.....sorry!!!! but not really.

LOL!!! If E&A actually headlined a show in 2009 that Atmosphere was playing at, nobody would have stayed for their set. It would have been a good excuse for cats to get home early and catch Colbert. I've yet to hear from any friends of mine here from Minneapolis that like Eyedea's new material...and they used to be big fans of the old.

[Boredstiff]

I dig the new album!