Advice on Battling

[SILVER]

Yo Im just lookin for some honest feedback on this one------

I live in Dallas Tx and a local radio station host a weekly battle a local restaraunt/club. Well last night in first round I went up against a rasta cat and his style/delivary was alright but during his 1 minute of rhymes he didn't direct like but 1 line towards me personally. The rest was booty chatta--" Let me take off my skully show you my hair you see Im a rasta" just bullshit. Well I had came for dolo nobody showed up to support me--solo---I had came early high (on that dro) and my mouth was mad dry---plus this was going to be my 1st time on stage ever and shit---Well I smashed him with opening line "Yeah word ur a rasta but Ill smoke ya like the dro before I got here bra---and later went on to say shit like " Ill grab u by ur dredds and drag u off the stage" and some other tight shit--now the crwod was feelin me pretty much the previous mc's both got boooo'd and double eliminated--When the crowd cheered for each of us at the end THe dj/host said it was equal--but they had 3 judges who immediately pointed to the rasta?????? All 3 judges were African-American---not to make this a race thing but Im white and one of the few there--(its in the hood were this shhh goes down)--The only other real slip up I had was my voice was real dry and my voice slipped on one line---1st time though and I made up for by flowing how my mouth was just dry from the excess high--Please I need advice none of man's was there to tell me---I got to go back next Mon I was new nervous dry mouth I know I can rip them harder---please feedback

[AtomILL]

nervous enegry is wack,...everyone picks up on it,...the key to wining is having a good time,..dont take the shit serious,..and you'll serve fools,..trust me

[SILVER]

Appreciate the advice _PEACE

[AtomILL]

no doubt man,...there was a time tho when battling was all about comin raw and rugged with some lyrical flurry,..but nowadays its all about being funny and witty,...so just come on some witty shit,I usually come on some real sarcastic shit. and like anything the dude whose battlin me clowns me about I just endoure it,nah'mean?...like if dude says some shit about me being broke,i'll play off of it and get into detail about how broke I really am(than proceed to clown him),...sorta makes it a win win sitisuation,....also hommie,I read how you said you'd smoke him like the dro you just smoked,..and grap him by his dreads and so forth,..it sounds to me like you should work more on structuring actual punchlines...heres some examples


"This ma'fucka couldnt see the light even with the lamp on/this ugly ma'fucka couldnt get pussy even if he was a tampoon"

"I shine brighter than the star of osirus/this ma'fucka looks naister than a crack pipe with the aids virus/"

[SILVER]

Yo-word I appreciate that advice--thanx ---my punchlines need to be more defined tight already Ill do this thanx Atomill I appreciate ur time

[AtomILL]

no doubt dude,..also dont be afraid to spit some pre written punchlines,..theres nothing wrong with improvising in freestyle battles,...everyone does it

[tgone]

en the crowd cheered for each of us at the end THe dj/host said it was equal--but they had 3 judges who immediately pointed to the rasta?????? All 3 judges were African-American---not to make this a race thing but Im white and one of the few there

maybe it was because you a white guy told a rasta you'd drag him out by his dreads. just a thought.

[Pandemonium]

Are you "Silvathug"on DHH? Just keep coming out and do your thing, it's just a part of paying dues....

[SILVER]

Word Pandemonioum peace--I was just trying to get feedback cuz none of my homeboys was there thats all--I will keep comin no doubt I love Monday Fight Nights---peace--cant wait 4 creative differences ---how about u?? Im going to Austin and D-town peace c-yall MOnday

[badluck]

:mad:
yea i know alot of emcee's who do nothing but battle..they practice punchlines all day...me personaly i stick to the writtin perfection...i battle only when challenged...i'd rather be performing or working on a new track..
thats just me

[Aschere Epsilon]

Originally posted by AtomILL
no doubt dude,..also dont be afraid to spit some pre written punchlines,..theres nothing wrong with improvising in freestyle battles,...everyone does it


"pre written"?
how can you call it a "freestyle" if its written? if your dope you dont have to do that. im not saying you cant, but a true emcee will catch you doing it and ripp you for it. i've been to battles and seen it happen.
my advice is keep freestyling every minute you can. keep practicing, just like anything else.....

[AtomILL]

i'm not saying get up on stage and start spittin a whole pre written battle rap,..i'm sayin its okay to improvise and adlib your written punchlines into the battle,...and if you think "a true emcee" wouldnt do that,than your a dumbass,...i'm sorry to tell you but any good battle mc does this,..mac lethal,prime,adm,sage,eyedea,etc...


how many battles have you been in? (discluding street ciphers)

[AtomILL]

and by no means do I "have" to spit a written punchline,because freestylin for me is like 2nd nature,but after being in so many battles where cats are improvising thought out punchlines into their freestyle battle verses,I figured I better get with it

[musicheadzone]

"Freestyle is freestyle is freestyle let your style be free and you'll live free in your style."

[seldomseen]

everyone has prewrittens formulated in their brains...and sometimes they slip out. But, freestyle is off the top, straight from nowhere and real emcees can tell if it is or isn't.
Battling, is definitely something you shouldnt really be nervous about, just chill and listen to your opponents...fuck the punchlines, just be truthful, rap about what the cat just spit, and bring sum solid stuff that you can't really talk shit about. too many punchlines sounds like preschool...but spit knowledge whether you're battling or not...stuff that hits in the heart is unbreakable.
Peace.

[SILVER]

Peace 2 U thats great advice---appreciate everybodies feedback!!!! peace

[Aschere Epsilon]

thanks seldomseen.....obviously you see what i'm sayin.
as for atomILL.....dumbass heh?! when we come to your town you can have the honor to battle some "true emcees"..... and they'll eat your pre written punchline style alive!
as for me.... i dont even rhyme, i produce....and the fellas i produce got 15 years of "battling" experience so watch who you call a dumass, it might come back and make you and your style look stupid. discluding street battles, i can count at least 15-20 battles they've done this summer alone at various clubs here in the valley. but i dont even count those....i think a cypher on 6th and mill with like 150 people standing around is enough to show whos dope and whos wack. i dont think you understood what i was saying when i said a "true emcee" .....i wasnt dissing you at all. i didnt disrespect you either, i only asked a question......
and it doesnt even matter whos better or worse, its all about music, and if you make it then more power to you.

[AtomILL]

aschere I think that hot ass arizona sun is fryin your brain if you think your crew can serve me and if you some how have the impression that "i've never had the honor to battle a real battle mc before" lol seriously kid seek shelter the sun in AZ has you fucked up ...really tho,if you and your crew are ever in So Cal,theres an open mic here in Oxnard that your boys can perform at(as well as battle) hit me up celph_writeous@hotmail.com

[AtomILL]

And also who do you roll with out in AZ,...I went to highschool out in AZ in the early to mid 90's,...so I know some cats from Blow Up Co Up,TBK,and some other crews

[Aschere Epsilon]

i'll let em know you think we're crazy here in AZ. more fuel for them to burn you with! this will be tight, a real battle! f'real, we'll defintely hit you up for some entertainment! better write them punchlines down, you wouldnt wanna forget em right?! lol
and i really dont care what you think guy, i havent heard the atomILL album yet! wheres it at?! i've heard and hear my homies albums.....uhh dump koch....uhhh phoenix rising.....uhh holgramic action figures. make an album then diss on those who got one!
to answer your question, i ran/run with supermarket, basik instinct, the whole locab dynasty.
no disrepect homie, but i know these guys can ripp it with any emcee, signed or not! didnt you ever go to 6th and mill in tempe?
ahhh, i bet your one of the casualties....

[AtomILL]

hahah you're really funny style..anyways man im not tryin to trade post of us talkin shit back and forth thats wack just email me when you and your friends leave the desert. celph_writeous@hotmail.com

[Skyeris Mae]

:p This is great!

[Aschere Epsilon]

are you a girl skyeris mae?

[S...]

Originally posted by Aschere Epsilon
are you a girl skyeris mae?

Did you read Skyeris' profile? Thats why your asking huh? I figured you two knew each other.

[Skyeris Mae]

;) Want me to show you how much of a female I am?? hehe:D

[Skyeris Mae]

Actually "S" I don't know who Aschere is. I would like to know who he is though ... :p He has good talk with others in the forums. But yeah..he could have just looked at my profile...;)

[Dr. Kris Knacker]

Originally posted by Skyeris Mae
Actually "S" I don't know who Aschere is. I would like to know who he is though ... :p He has good talk with others in the forums. But yeah..he could have just looked at my profile...;)

i just peeped your profile, and its doesnt say shiiiiit!

[Skyeris Mae]

:eek: your right, it doesn't say "shiiiit".

[Aschere Epsilon]

Originally posted by S...
Did you read Skyeris' profile? Thats why your asking huh? I figured you two knew each other.

yeah, i saw she had my name on her profile so i was 'hoping' it was a girl! :D i think i know who it is....

[Dr. Kris Knacker]

Originally posted by Skyeris Mae
:eek: your right, it doesn't say "shiiiit".

i stand corrected. It doesnt say anything about male or female.:confused:

[twisted_harmonix]

i'm surprised nobody called dude out for coming to an internet forum for "advice on battling".

[Nasty]

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