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T-Bone
03-21-2007, 06:33 PM
Has anybody heard how the new A-plus album is? And what about the overtime album?

shrooMusic
03-21-2007, 07:09 PM
I just bought Overtime today at Amoeba.

I like it. Has a lot of good tracks so it's definitely a good buy.

Haven't heard too much about A Plus' album but I do hear that it's going to be pretty good.

dan12003
04-04-2007, 06:06 AM
quite a few reviews popping up
http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2007_04_mylastgood.html

dan12003
04-26-2007, 06:05 AM
well at last managed to get a listen to the whole of the album and its good, beats especially. annoyingly most of the big hitters i had already heard posted on myspace. my opinion i still prefer opio's TS

dan12003
04-27-2007, 07:45 AM
well at last managed to get a listen to the whole of the album and its good, beats especially. annoyingly most of the big hitters i had already heard posted on myspace. my opinion i still prefer opio's TS

verdict another banging hiero release!! favourites joints "a-plus" and "the one", "my last good deed"

* on one of the joints he says "from 2005 till infinity" this shit from 2 yrs ago??

hero1
04-28-2007, 01:28 AM
well a-plus' album was a really bad first listen for me.. I was really disappointed..cause I had high expectations.. a-plus has been my fav member of souls/hiero for years.. all the tracks he produced are my fav tracks.. after the initial shock.. the more I listen to this album the more I like it.. a couple of the souls albums were bad first listens and they quickly became my most listened to and fav albums.. this could follow.. i think hearing some of the best tracks b4 i heard the album didnt help.. but theres some great tracks on this..

highlights..
right quik! - classic souls!
far away - this is awesome
kiss the sky- this is one of the best tracks a-plus has done
the one- banger! great track the jamaican flava really works
whats hannin - i love this beat..its a real different track.. slow tempo and comes off nicely

others..
a beautiful thing - i swear casual has been killin it lately.. this is a real interesting beat..great chorus.. great raps
nothin fake/the ultimate - great beats! its a pity the tracks are so short and a-plus doesnt bust over em.. but you know how hiero rolls ..nice!
good time charlie - another solid track

not feeling.. javelin, my dub song

soo overall i'd say its a good album that I need to listen to more.. there is some great a-plus beats on this.. the more serious tracks seem to be the best

dan12003
04-28-2007, 02:58 AM
man u gotta love the sample and intro for "aplus" that song is a killer, and yeah the intro from sunspot

also check this some background on the album

http://www.britishhiphop.co.uk/reviews/album_reviews/a-plus_-_my_last_good_deed_cd_hiero_imperium_.html

anyone know this dude b' nasty that got brutally murdered

Sifon
04-30-2007, 10:49 AM
so this is coming out tomorrow???

hero1
04-30-2007, 05:04 PM
yep

Sifon
05-03-2007, 09:29 AM
album is really good. much better then i expected.

Quadraplee
05-03-2007, 04:18 PM
It's pretty dope.

staghead
05-04-2007, 04:58 AM
I'm getting it next week, don't think I'll be disappointed.

CDubb
05-07-2007, 12:44 AM
The album is pretty good, better than I expected. Of course I expected the beats to be heat, and they were. A Plus is the worst out of Hiero when it comes to lyricism IMO, and he has times where he shines and others where he doesn't. Overall though, another solid Hiero release. Now the long wait for the 11th hour continues!

Fav. tracks: The One, Right Quik, Nothin' Fake/The Ultimate, Good Time Charlie, Kiss The Sky

dan12003
05-07-2007, 04:39 AM
The album is pretty good, better than I expected. Of course I expected the beats to be heat, and they were. A Plus is the worst out of Hiero when it comes to lyricism IMO, and he has times where he shines and others where he doesn't. Overall though, another solid Hiero release. Now the long wait for the 11th hour continues!

Fav. tracks: The One, Right Quik, Nothin' Fake/The Ultimate, Good Time Charlie, Kiss The Sky

man i totally disagree, aplus cant be the weakest lyricist out of hiero

CDubb
05-07-2007, 12:35 PM
man i totally disagree, aplus cant be the weakest lyricist out of hiero

I can't say he's always been weak on the mic, back in the 93 til days he was really good on the mic. I just think he has regressed a lot since those days. I heard a couple of instances of recycled lyrics from plee on this album that i'd heard before. If not A Plus, then I'd say Casual. Who do you think is the weakest?

dan12003
05-07-2007, 01:13 PM
i wud say domino

CDubb
05-07-2007, 07:41 PM
Lol, nice. No really, if not Plee who is the weakest lyrically out of hiero that spits?

LeMarcBre
05-07-2007, 08:17 PM
you can argue Phesto, he definately puts out the least amount of material...Casual may not be the most consistent, but when he is on damn is he on

dan12003
05-07-2007, 09:51 PM
you can argue Phesto, he definately puts out the least amount of material...Casual may not be the most consistent, but when he is on damn is he on

i think i would agree with phesto but when you hear him freestyle hes very good, i wud poss say opio. his stuff he does in the studios amazing apart from that i havnt seen him shine as much

erik
05-08-2007, 07:53 AM
Phes is one of the best mc in the crew! If you heard Never No More, the freestyles- as Dan mentioned too-, You never knew, The Who or Maximize 3rd eyes (and list can goes on...), then you know what i'm talking about. Anyway, every mc has his own style. Somebody like that, somebody doesn't. From Phes to Opio, everybody writes rhymes on a high-class level. I like Damani's style the best and maybe Casual's least of all.

Plee's LP: It isn't good as I expected but there are great songs like Right quick, Kiss the sky, Nothin fake, Beautiful thing, Now there you go or Far away. Im not feeling Javelin and Whats hannin even as JC and Ty Nitty...
Does anybody know who cuts on A-P-L-U-S & Beautiful Thing? I hope he's Touré... Or Jay-Biz!!! Unfortunately it's unreality...

Quadraplee
05-08-2007, 11:55 AM
PhesRock is Hiero's secret weapon. A secret weapon ain't nothin' weak.

CDubb
05-08-2007, 01:34 PM
Phes is one of the best mc in the crew! If you heard Never No More, the freestyles- as Dan mentioned too-, You never knew, The Who or Maximize 3rd eyes (and list can goes on...), then you know what i'm talking about. Anyway, every mc has his own style. Somebody like that, somebody doesn't. From Phes to Opio, everybody writes rhymes on a high-class level. I like Damani's style the best and maybe Casual's least of all.

Plee's LP: It isn't good as I expected but there are great songs like Right quick, Kiss the sky, Nothin fake, Beautiful thing, Now there you go or Far away. Im not feeling Javelin and Whats hannin even as JC and Ty Nitty...
Does anybody know who cuts on A-P-L-U-S & Beautiful Thing? I hope he's Touré... Or Jay-Biz!!! Unfortunately it's unreality...


Yeah i agree, Phesto is one of the best out of the crew. You can't judge him just on the lack of catalog. Everything he spits is pretty much always lyrical. I stand by my opinion that Plee and Cas are the weaker links of a super lyrical crew. I've just really noticed a "dumbing down" of the lyrics over the years of those two.

hero1
05-09-2007, 01:25 AM
Phesto killed it on No Man's Land

dan12003
05-09-2007, 02:10 AM
Phesto killed it on No Man's Land

cant bare to listen to that album .. terrible stuff

erik
05-09-2007, 04:39 AM
PhesRock is Hiero's secret weapon. A secret weapon ain't nothin' weak.

Hahaaaa! Secret Weapon... Man, it's the most suitable word :cool: Phes will prove with a great album that he's a unique, a royal mc! "Phes' colossal might on the mic is optimum! ...and hip-hop from the Sequoia Heights populous!"

No Man's Land: I think it's not so horibble as you claim. For example I love Freshdopedope (beautiful production from Jay-Bizzy and good lyrics), No man's land , Time's aint fair, U dont stop or Fo sho fo real. But it's true it's one of the weakest stuff of the Hiero history.

Sifon
05-09-2007, 08:39 AM
cant say im a casual fan......

a plus is dope as hell though....i dont know what you guys are saying...unless you really love everyone else in the crew

_Unknown*
05-09-2007, 09:21 AM
a friend of mine brought it to work yesterday... fresh album.

KBW
05-09-2007, 10:47 PM
Taking from Okayplayer.com
http://www.okayplayer.com/reviews/index.php/weblog/more/my_last_good_deed/

On his solo debut, A Plus of Souls Of Mischief unfortunately falls short of his name with a collection of 17 tracks of straight up C material. It’s good enough to pass to the next grade, but definitely not something to hang on Mom’s refrigerator.

Most of the lyrics on My Last Good Deed are a little too straightforward and uninspiring, but at times, A Plus delivers a memorable line or two. On the banging “Patna Please” he relates to every car-owning weed smoker with the hook, “Riding through the East, smoking on my weed, I drive with my knees when I’m rolling up my trees.”

The production also leaves a bit more to be desired. There isn’t really a bad beat on the album- but there aren’t any standouts either. There’s a lot of clever dialogue samples used to tie songs together and keep the album flowing from one track to the next. The lyrics and production are at their best on heartfelt tracks like “Kiss The Sky,” “Far Away” and his tales of relationship angst on “Now There You Go.”

Overall, A Plus has crafted a smooth, consistent album. Each track transitions into the next with ease, and nothing seems out of place. Unfortunately, nothing stands out as amazing, and this album will most likely go down in history as just another average rap record.

- Griff

hero1
05-10-2007, 02:17 AM
no mans land is a great album...

Quadraplee
05-10-2007, 11:48 AM
no mans land is a great album...

word.

Ojay
05-19-2007, 12:18 AM
oh my goodness.. casual is far from the weakest member of hiero. if that's a thought you've ever entertained, then i really don't know what to tell ya. he, pep, and del are on a totally different level than the souls.. the souls as a group is great. as solos, they are all lacking. this has nothing to do with personal taste either.. it is the truth.

CDubb
05-19-2007, 11:13 AM
oh my goodness.. casual is far from the weakest member of hiero. if that's a thought you've ever entertained, then i really don't know what to tell ya. he, pep, and del are on a totally different level than the souls.. the souls as a group is great. as solos, they are all lacking. this has nothing to do with personal taste either.. it is the truth.

Oh alright, just what makes you the all knowing individual anyway. That's why it's an opinion, and my opinion is that A Plus & Casual are the weaker members LYRICALLY in Hiero as of right now. Opio, Tajai & Phesto all shit on Cas lyrically nowadays Smash Rockwell was not a very good album IMO, too much trying to be gangsta shit on it. Well I guess I shouldn't be listening to someone who's quoting MIMS in his signature. Yeah, now I definately know that you are a great judge of talent!

twisted_harmonix
05-21-2007, 09:22 AM
yeah casual, del, and pep are on another level for sure. smash rockwell takes time to get into and catch some of his complex rhyme patterns, but once you get into it, its a pretty amazing album.

hiero's hierarchy of lyricism would have to go something like...

del
pep
casual
opio
a-plus
tajai
phesto

of course theyre all sick as fuck tho.

Quadraplee
05-21-2007, 11:59 AM
My Last Good Deed is hittin' me harder than Triangulation Station, right now.. Op's got some compitition.

Del :confused:
Phes :eek:
A :D
Pep
Op :cool:
Cas
Taj

that's the order 4me ryt now, tuff 2 ordr like that

p.s. Souls aren't on a different level from del cas n pep.

hero1
05-21-2007, 05:53 PM
they are all different theres no point in comparing..

complete
05-21-2007, 08:50 PM
PhesRock is Hiero's secret weapon. A secret weapon ain't nothin' weak.

the seismic high fidelity poltergeist in your amplifiers




man its been ten years since 3rd eye vision and i have listened probably to huhndreds of albums since then, but this is one line that sticks in my head.


plee is the boss. period.

cas. boss.


And honestly i dont know anyone sould say ANYONE from hiero is weak, as a crew i think they are the apex. for sure. its a shame they havent got as much shin as say wutang or something

complete
05-21-2007, 08:53 PM
Smash Rockwell was not a very good album IMO, too much trying to be gangsta shit on it.



did you ever really listen to fear itself or 3rd eye vision?? cas has always been the hardest foo out of hiero. he a boss

twisted_harmonix
05-21-2007, 09:36 PM
did you ever really listen to fear itself or 3rd eye vision?? cas has always been the hardest foo out of hiero. he a boss

u damn right

CDubb
05-21-2007, 11:32 PM
did you ever really listen to fear itself or 3rd eye vision?? cas has always been the hardest foo out of hiero. he a boss

Fuck yeah, those albums are classic. I just wasn't really feeling Smash Rockwell, save a couple songs.


P.S. Is this who I think it is?

dan12003
05-22-2007, 12:14 AM
i dont know why peeps are puttin tajai at the bottom, just cos power movement i spose

twisted_harmonix
05-22-2007, 07:35 AM
i dont know why peeps are puttin tajai at the bottom, just cos power movement i spose
for me its just his delivery, sometimes i can't stand it.

Quadraplee
05-22-2007, 11:54 AM
i dont know why peeps are puttin tajai at the bottom, just cos power movement i spose

Who else?.. Opio?!

btw Power Movement was tight, 'specially the remixes

twisted_harmonix
05-22-2007, 01:07 PM
Who else?.. Opio?!


opio is the best of s.o.m.

Quadraplee
05-22-2007, 04:57 PM
It was an exaggeration son

complete
05-22-2007, 08:14 PM
Fuck yeah, those albums are classic. I just wasn't really feeling Smash Rockwell, save a couple songs.


P.S. Is this who I think it is?






wow




what it do foo?? access is where its at




edit: hahaha trip out what you been up to?

Ojay
05-22-2007, 11:14 PM
"smash rockwell" is the best hiero album since "full circle."

i do understand when you say "lyrically" weak.. but not really cuz his rhymes are tight.. he just isn't one of those "lyrically lyrical" types, but his presence, flow, delivery, and overall appeal are all very strong.

dan12003
05-23-2007, 07:27 AM
to show my appreciation for my backing of tajai im posting this nice track :D

http://www.sendspace.com/file/osaoep "tajai - so nice"

(sounds like sampling from the rocky soundtrack)

twisted_harmonix
05-23-2007, 07:29 AM
i'd say cas is hella lyrical. listen to his shit, he's got 3...4...5... syllable rhymes. virtually no other emcee in the game is doing that. i'd say the only thing he's gotta work on is his hooks, sometimes theyre a little monotonous.

dan12003
05-23-2007, 07:30 AM
btw: lol this must be the longest thread ever created on hoopla, since i bin here any way!!

twisted_harmonix
05-23-2007, 07:54 AM
bavgate.

lol roflmfao tee hee.

Quadraplee
05-23-2007, 12:08 PM
to show my appreciation for my backing of tajai im posting this nice track :D

http://www.sendspace.com/file/osaoep "tajai - so nice"

(sounds like sampling from the rocky soundtrack)

yeah, taj keeps it real

hero1
05-23-2007, 02:48 PM
cas is killin it lyrically.. loved him on full circle and smash rockwell was a great album..

CDubb
05-23-2007, 05:35 PM
wow




what it do foo?? access is where its at




edit: hahaha trip out what you been up to?


Haha, I thought it was you. Not much man, just working and hanging out. Damn, can't hit me back on myspace or what? You Still in SLO?