yall need the gate on the radio...

[twisted_harmonix]

play bavgate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLTae1L6Ms&mode=related&search=)

[Marklar]

terrible

[twisted_harmonix]

terrible

yes, phenominal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCkw3Ti74Yc)

[Marklar]

yes, phenominal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCkw3Ti74Yc)i think i just threw up in my mouth a bit

[twisted_harmonix]

i think i just threw up in my mouth a bit

dont lie. you threw up the T.
i got proof. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_2S4nWKJGg)

[D.F.A.]

play bavgate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLTae1L6Ms&mode=related&search=)

needs mo' cowbell.

[twisted_harmonix]

needs mo' cowbell.

haha!!!!

yeah thats a lil annoyin aint it? but most of his stuff has real nice beats. check out the instagator album.

[D.F.A.]

haha!!!!

yeah thats a lil annoyin aint it? but most of his stuff has real nice beats. check out the instagator album.

I'll pass, one day it'll be in the .99 cent bin.

[twisted_harmonix]

I'll pass, one day it'll be in the .99 cent bin.
dont count on it.
i post a track if you want.

[WhALE]

nothins fuckin' with THIZZ, no doubt, but that song's weak. I'm sure he has shit that's real dope but that track is almost garbage.

[twisted_harmonix]

nothins fuckin' with THIZZ, no doubt, but that song's weak. I'm sure he has shit that's real dope but that track is almost garbage.

true. the thread is more of a statement to listen to bavgate than that particular song. in fact, i dont care for that track at all but people should listen to the instagator. consistently dope all the way through.

[Marklar]

true. the thread is more of a statement to listen to bavgate than that particular song. in fact, i dont care for that track at all but people should listen to the instagator. consistently dope all the way through.

well do us all a favor and keep your poo fetish contained to one thread

[twisted_harmonix]

well do us all a favor and keep your poo fetish contained to one thread
and allow you to potentially miss out on all these musical works of genius??
no thanks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFsr_pw5qX4&NR)

[D.F.A.]

dont count on it.
i post a track if you want.

Post it.

[twisted_harmonix]

here you go...

bavgate - bang from the town (http://download.yousendit.com/282AF75F5FC59400)

(available for 7 days)

and peep the www.myspace.com/bavgate

[Keyz]

radio isn't the most important thing, online radio is really big right now

[twisted_harmonix]

true but it spreads music out to people that wouldn't normally listen to it. and the stuff on the radio now is so monotonous that we need a change. whether its bavgate or blackalicious, i'd be happy if either one got airtime.

[eamon]

do you just sit on youtube and type in bay area, hyphy, mac dre, thizz, stupid doo doo dumb, yellow bus in the seach field all day?

[Fullmetal]

His name is BavGate?... Isn't that a blatant rip-off of New York City ghostwriter "Bathgate" (who wrote for Diddy).. who both got their names from mobster Billy Bathgate?... I'm not from the West Coast, nor do I watch Tv, listen to the radio(been 7 years now) But..... I know a bad song when I hear it. He's killing his own credibiliy by begging for radio spins in my opinion. If he were hot enough, the people would be coming in, or calling, requesting for him "On the radio".... Just my thoughts though.

[Nasty]

I'm not from the West Coast, nor do I watch Tv, listen to the radio(been 7 years now) But..... I know a bad song when I hear it. He's killing his own credibiliy by begging for radio spins in my opinion. If he were hot enough, the people would be coming in, or calling, requesting for him "On the radio".... Just my thoughts though.

Owned Eric in his 8th post.

[Holleration Station]

hella ownage!! gettin dumb widdit

yaddadamean

[twisted_harmonix]

hahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
some of the nerds out there love to hate but they can eat a dick and keep bumpin your black dark blue death bullshit depression muzik...

yeee!!!

[Fullmetal]

^ You are a misguided soul my friend. If I wanted to hear about the same thing over and over again (redundantly wack, may I add) I'd listen to Hyphy.. or Crunk music. If Lupe Fiasco, Mf Doom, and Shawn Carter are black death depression music... then call me The Reaper, cause I'm damn sure positive that Lupe Fiaso> Than anything that has ever come out of the Bay, E-40 included. Just my thoughts though...

[twisted_harmonix]

yeah i dig lupe too but i tell u what, i'm not about to close myself off to any one type of music. i listen to good music, whether its underground, mainstream, or g shit. i cant stand the nerds that categorize certain artists or styles as "hyphy" and dont give it a chance. thats bullshit... open your damn mind. some of the best production is coming from the so-called "hyphy movement" and if you look hard enough there are some artists that are lyrically raising the bar to the next millenium.

oh and props to lupe for doin what he duz, but i'm sorry... e-40 shits all over him and wipes his ass with lupe's rhymebook.

[Marklar]

yeah i dig lupe too but i tell u what, i'm not about to close myself off to any one type of music. i listen to good music, whether its underground, mainstream, or g shit. i cant stand the nerds that categorize certain artists or styles as "hyphy" and dont give it a chance. thats bullshit... open your damn mind. some of the best production is coming from the so-called "hyphy movement" and if you look hard enough there are some artists that are lyrically raising the bar to the next millenium.

oh and props to lupe for doin what he duz, but i'm sorry... e-40 shits all over him and wipes his ass with lupe's rhymebook.

your head is so far up E-40's ass and every other hyphy clown you've forgotten what good music sounds like. i have yet to hear a good beat from any of those people and good lyrics are even harder to come by.

[Fullmetal]

Lol.. Yo.. did you listen to that Bavgate song? Or where you too busy ghost riding your imaginary whip? Chorus- Garbage. Lyrics- Garbage. Beat-Garbage. The majority of the artists from that area are sub par. I listen to everything before I write it off, and if E-40, Bavgate, Federation, Keak Da Sneak, etc are what you have to offer me... I respectfully decline. Not only is that not my culture, it's just plain wack. Wacker than crunk actually. At least Lil Jon got me amped to hear no lyrics. "WHAT!!!" "OKKK!" I was fine with that. Hyphy dudes have the nerve to be mellow and wack. There are probably dudes in Cali now that are angry at this nonsense, the same way New York cats are angry at the South."We can actually spit, and these bums get on?!" Just my thoughts man... Holla.

[Fullmetal]

And by the way, what is your association with "nerds" dont they categorically study algebra? What an incredibly cliche (and wrong cliche at that) to put rap with. "Nerds". You seem like you need help, so I'll give you a few terms you're probably comfortable with using. How about "fags", "cornballs" "losers" etc? If you need more assistance, dial your operator. Ya Smell Me pimpin?

[verbal kint]

cause I'm damn sure positive that Lupe Fiaso> Than anything that has ever come out of the Bay, E-40 included. Just my thoughts though...
whoa... thats a bold statement, son. even if you're not a fan of mob music or hyphy shit, dont forget that the bay has one of the most diverse hip hop scenes. what about hiero? zion i? blackalicious? saafir? charizma?

i like lupe and all, but folks give him way too much credit as being the new hip-hop savior and shit. i think folks get blinded by his all over print hoodies.

[_Unknown*]

your head is so far up E-40's ass and every other hyphy clown you've forgotten what good music sounds like. i have yet to hear a good beat from any of those people

yet to hear a good beat from e-40 or anybody involved with 'hyphy' music???

damn. u havent been doing a very good job at listening, have u?

[twisted_harmonix]

yadda yadda yadda... bavgate sucks even though i aint heard his album... bla bla bla ... i ingested massive amounts of lupe's semen last night... yadda yadda
hey buddy, how bout you take that knife in your kitchen... yes the really really sharp one.... and put it to your chest and apply pressure.

[twisted_harmonix]

yet to hear a good beat from e-40 or anybody involved with 'hyphy' music???

damn. u havent been doing a very good job at listening, have u?

ahhaahhaaa....
you'll have to forgive him. he's a texan and obviously doesn't get out much.

[Nasty]

There might be a reason that the gate is not on the radio. Making a song about please put me on the radio is pathetic.

The only thing more pathetic than that guy is your music taste Eric.

[twisted_harmonix]

There might be a reason that the gate is not on the radio. Making a song about please put me on the radio is pathetic.

The only thing more pathetic than that guy is your music taste Eric.
once again, nothin special about that track but the instagator is heat. dont speak on it til you hear that album.

and actually i listen to a lot of the same shit as you, so to dis my taste is to dis your own.

[Nasty]

once again, nothin special about that track but the instagator is heat. dont speak on it til you hear that album.

and actually i listen to a lot of the same shit as you, so to dis my taste is to dis your own.

I'm sure you do like some decent shit but everything you jock hard, like this bavgate shit, seems to be really, really bad.

[twisted_harmonix]

I'm sure you do like some decent shit but everything you jock hard, like this bavgate shit, seems to be really, really bad.
bavgate used to be part of steady mobbn. he's dope. maybe a little too gangster for some of the folks in here though.

[eamon]

Steady Mobbin' was weak too dude...and I haven't heard anything else aside form that radio song u put up, but that shit was horrible...and trust me I'm all about supporting bay area shit...but not that song.

[Fullmetal]

:] Aw.. someone feels offended. Disrespecting Lupe isn't going to get me angry you know. Blackalicious is dope.... But they aren't "hyphy". Why would you include them? Are you reaching? Yes. Let's just agree to disagree. I personally think Bavgate and those like him need to step their game up. You think otherwise. I have this thing I learned from this certain rapper.. long time ago. Something about not arguing with fools. Because people from a distance can't tell who is who. Holla. :D

[Fullmetal]

And by the way..... this goes as a general question to everyone... This so-called "gangster" music people are talking about... how many of us that listen to Hip-Hop around here are actual "Gangsters"?.... Dont you all jump up at once now...

[eons]

my ears are tuned to music i relate too.......that means i dont listen to gangsta but i listen to gangstarr

[verbal kint]

:] Aw.. someone feels offended. Disrespecting Lupe isn't going to get me angry you know. Blackalicious is dope.... But they aren't "hyphy". Why would you include them? Are you reaching? Yes. Let's just agree to disagree. I personally think Bavgate and those like him need to step their game up. You think otherwise. I have this thing I learned from this certain rapper.. long time ago. Something about not arguing with fools. Because people from a distance can't tell who is who. Holla. :D
you were dissing on the whole bay though... you dont see me clowing chicago for coming out with crucial conflict. we'll agree to disagree though. i dont have time to get into a big debate.

and i listen to "gangsta rap" music. street reporting is necessary in hip-hop. we could get into it about what the "real" shit is. but remember, the only people in nwa that lived the lifestyle that they rapped about were eazy e and wren.

[eons]

"icecube writes the rhymes that i say,hell to the niggas from the cia"-eazy e

didnt cube write all eazy's shit while in nwa?

[verbal kint]

"icecube writes the rhymes that i say,hell to the niggas from the cia"-eazy e

didnt cube write all eazy's shit while in nwa?
not all, but a good portion. the doc and wren wrote a lot too.

but if it wasnt for eazy, there wouldnt have been an nwa.

[_Unknown*]

And by the way..... this goes as a general question to everyone... This so-called "gangster" music people are talking about... how many of us that listen to Hip-Hop around here are actual "Gangsters"?.... Dont you all jump up at once now...

You dont have to be a gangster to BE gangster.

And you def dont have to be a gangster to relate with 'gangster rap'.

[twisted_harmonix]

well aint that a bitch, access is heavy into the censorship now. motherfuckers been sleepin with o'reily or some shit.

but anyways........
what is this all about?

maybe some people are superficial.

maybe some folks listen to one track and come to a consensus on an artists whole damn portfolio and lifes work. but who am i to say what the conclusion of all this is...

its ridiculous really. as human beings we all have our own opinions. we all have sounds that spark something from within us. for what reason, who knows. maybe we relate to it. maybe we just like the sound. maybe it conjours up memories from the past. or helps to create new ones. but whatever it is, why are people so quick to dismiss cetain things without thorough insight? maybe they're scurred. maybe they are just conjested from all the bodily fluids they ingested from lupe fiasco's genitalia. but it doesn't really matter. because folks will like what they like. and talk hella shit on everything else. even if they really dont know bout it.

but i know one thing:

I love music. Dont know what the hell I'd do without it. It gets me through the day. All of it. I love it all. If not for the sound then for the simple idea that someone put everything they have into that shit and created something. Even if I'm not feelin it, the inginuity and thought is more than I see in most folks day to day.

[WhALE]

T-Harmz, quit defending it mayng. They either get it or they don't.

my ears are tuned to music i relate too.......that means i dont listen to gangsta but i listen to gangstarr

coooooool!

[twisted_harmonix]

T-Harmz, quit defending it mayng. They either get it or they don't.
oh i know this, believe you me. i know this very well, "mayng".

but thats what it is, people dont get it. they dont want to allow themselves to get it.

[Fullmetal]

I didn't diss "The Bay". Just said that I like my music better. People tend to get offended. You shouldn't. I've noticed that this is predominantly a Californians messageboard, and that's cool. I also don't live in Chicago. I'm from Jersey. Disrespect Redman or something. Anger blinds people, as if I personally attacked them. I guarantee you, that the artists we're defending, don't know we personally exist. And thanks for the responses to the "Gangster" question. And as for you Harmonix... you are way too fluent with adjectives and adverbs concerning homosexual acts. How many times here have you mentioned someone "ingesting someone elses genitalia"? It's rather childish, and pathetic. Can you not have a simple discussion without that kind of inane nonsense? Guess not. As for the "thorough insight"... After watching that Bavgate video on Youtube 3 times.. I came to the same conclusion. Him begging for radio play is not only demeaning to himself, but it was a pathetic song in its own right. Not even worthy of a radio parody. I'm done. Holla.

[LBFam]

"icecube writes the rhymes that i say,hell to the niggas from the cia"-eazy e

For future reference, it was: "Hail to the niggas from C.I.A."

C.I.A. was a group Ice Cube (and Sir Jinx) was in prior to NWA..

[twisted_harmonix]

mr. fullmetal,
do you pick and choose what you read and dont read on this thread?

because i swear i've said it over and over and i was the first to admit that that track is not good. but its the only one they had on youtube. my fault, but i had no other resources except for his myspace page. so i'll tell you for the umpteenth time: listen to the instagator before you speak on this anymore. cuz you really know nothing if all you saw was that video.

and if i'm childish by pointing out your groupie-esque infatuation with lupe then so be it. but i can easily come up with a couple dozen west coast emcees that'll rip that fool to shreds.

[Fullmetal]

^^ Will Do. Tha Instagator. As for Lupe... I've mentioned him Twice. More or less likely because he's my avatar, that's why you keep bringing him up. If Mos Def was it you'd be saying his name. Don't be so obviously idiotic. Peace.

[twisted_harmonix]

nah, theres a world of difference between lupe fiasco and mos def. if it was mos you were jockin then i'd respect that.

[Fullmetal]

Ok... did a decent little run-through for Tha Instagtor LP by Bavagate. To be fair I give all tracks at least 45 seconds, unless they suffer from wackocity syndrome. Here's my Synopsis.

Keeping It Gangsta- Kinda Wack 2/5
Skit- Not really funny. 1/5 Sounds like he stole the idea from Ludas "Chicken and Beer" album.
Im Rich- Ok at best.. wack chorus. 2/5
Sucka Fo Hoes-Bad, bad song...Funny Though... 1/5
Touched- Beat had potential. 2/5
Bang From The Town- Damn all these beats sound the same so far... 2/5 The nigga said "Im Hot like Hot potato"....
It's Hot- This is super wack...1/5 "I grab my boost mobile, and give you a call"....
Skit #2- 3/5 Gotta love haters. They always make a good skit.
Hoe's- 1/5 another average song. Average chorus.
Committed- 2/5 ^ same description, he just has even wacker stuff. I hope that's Juvenile, and even he's still spittin the same corny shit.
Lock Down-2/5 Even Bavgate doesn't sound like he believes what he's saying sometimes. So boring and unenthusiastic.
Back On Up- 1/5 I swear to God I just heard this beat earlier on the album...
This City- 3/5 Best beat on the album. He actually sounds like he's trying. "This city aint big enough!!"
How We Do It-2/5 Game does his usual name-dropping shit, and Bav on his borin shit. another wack chorus.
Tha Ghetto- 2/5 I'm hearin shit... I heard this beat like 3-4 tracks ago... wack, wack, wack!
Skit#3- 1/5 Walkie Talkie bullshit talking skits... boooooo
Black Mafia- 3/5 2nd best beat on the album... I guess. He sounds a little more into this song. "I'll leave 30 slugs in ya park and cober hat"


There we go... his album, on an even scale is 2 out of 5. Meaning average/ needs work. He does have a few bright spots, a little bit (and I mean a little) bit of potential, but it's wasted over these overly wack redundant West Coast beats. He needs to fire his producer(s). Lil Wayne sounds much better over East Coast instrumentals, maybe Bavgate would too. Or would that ruin his Bay credibility? I dont know. Very average album though.

[twisted_harmonix]

fair enough.
i dont see how you can say that the production is weak and the beats sound the same but i guess coming from an east coast head that is understandable.
i think fans of west coast hiphop will dig it more. its by no means a classic but it does have some bangers that thump in the ride and some real laid back type of flows to go along with it.
glad you gave it a listen tho. it grows on you.

[Fullmetal]

Of course. I'm gonna be downloading "This City" before I go to work. It was actually aight. He's like a West coast MF Doom probably. Listen to him in the crib while you're cleaning the house (thats what I do for doom) sounds good that way. Bavs better than Yukmouth though.

[aueu]

He's like a West coast MF Doom probably.

:D

[Nasty]

its by no means a classic.

Then why are you jocking it so hard? Thats the only thing I dont understand.

[twisted_harmonix]

Then why are you jocking it so hard? Thats the only thing I dont understand.
because its some above average g-shit from an artist that nobody knows about. it knocks hard and its enjoyable to listen to. does everything have to be a classic to be mentioned on here?

i gaurantee that within a couple years he's gonna be a big name in the bay.

[twisted_harmonix]

He's like a West coast MF Doom probably.
hahaa... not exactly but he's got some consistent slumpers that are a good change from the hella angry yelling (i.e. yuk) type of hood shit.

[Nasty]

Who even listens to the radio?

[twisted_harmonix]

i listen to kmel when i'm in the bay. and sometimes tune in to blazin here in sd.
but for the most part i'd rather put my ipod on shuffle.

i get sick of songs on the radio, even the occasional good ones... shit gets played out in a matter of hours.

[Fullmetal]

I dont even own an Ipod... waste of money.. I got my 25$ Mp3 player on shuffle. I haven't listened to the radio in like... 7 years.... I feel old at 21.

[Nasty]

I dont even own an Ipod... waste of money.. I got my 25$ Mp3 player on shuffle. I haven't listened to the radio in like... 7 years.... I feel old at 21.

That was an ignorant statement. The ipod is a music fans best friend. You have no idea young buck.

[Fullmetal]

The Ipod is an overpriced piece of equipment that functions no better than my 25 dollar Mp3. Minus the screen, they are fundamentally the same. I spent 25. Most people spent 200-300$ Who really won out here?. Most people don't even have 500mb worth of music, much less 1 gig. I chose the cost effective, (and in my opinion) the intelligent solution to not wanting a cd player anymore. I saved about 175$... plus you need to buy Itunes (or know someone that has it) to use it. I got Pse&G and rent to pay. :]

[eons]

[QUOTE=verbal_kint;253886]not all, but a good portion. the doc and wren wrote a lot too.


for your future reference its MC REN not MC WREN


wren is a bird:rolleyes:

[Nasty]

The Ipod is an overpriced piece of equipment that functions no better than my 25 dollar Mp3. Minus the screen, they are fundamentally the same. I spent 25. Most people spent 200-300$ Who really won out here?. Most people don't even have 500mb worth of music, much less 1 gig. I chose the cost effective, (and in my opinion) the intelligent solution to not wanting a cd player anymore. I saved about 175$... plus you need to buy Itunes (or know someone that has it) to use it. I got Pse&G and rent to pay. :]

Ignorant.

1. you dont have to buy i-tunes. It's free to everyone with or without an i-pod.
2. I-tunes is a great program for organizing and using your music.
3. My i-pod has 30 gigs of storage. Whatever you bought for $25 isnt coming close to touching that.
4. i-pods are the shit. I hook it up to my home stereo and to my car stereo. Rolling around with 30gigs of music at your fingertips is heaven.

You're young and maybe you dont own very much music so it wont make sense for you. How many cd's do you own?

[Holleration Station]

Even if I'm not feelin it, the inginuity and thought is more than I see in most folks day to day.

definately agree here

[Fullmetal]

I'm a beginner DJ.. my brother and I combined have over 2 entertainment centers full of wax, 400 cd's... not including material on our computers, my production work, etc. More old mixtapes than I can possibly count. I just see no need to carry around a massive amount of music. I don't listen to all the music in my house [U]now] all the time. 256 mb- about 100 songs is enough for me, especially for a day's activities(Work, working out, etc) I also have a really simple adapter so I can put into a car (If I had one). I just look at Ipods as a status symbol, like buying a Mercedes. Most people dont even like Mercedes'... they just get them to show they have money. Ipods are in the same vein in my opinion.Not saying you, because Im sure you have a wealth of music on it.. and maybe you [U]doU] want your entire collection at your disposal. I just don't find it personally necessary.Especially not when I have two jobs, bills, and other things to pay for. Financially, an Ipod is a waste for me, especially when I can be satisfied for almost 200 dollars less. Oh yeah, my firmware is expandable, so I can upgrade my little Mp3 player. a gig if I Like. Probably never will though. :]

[Fullmetal]

Oh yeah, I'm a really really neat guy (almost anal retentive) so my Windows Media Player is perfectly organized all the time. Then again, this is just me. :]

[verbal kint]

for your future reference its MC REN not MC WREN


wren is a bird:rolleyes:
dang... didnt catch that... hella moded.

[WhALE]

this thread sucks.

[Nasty]

this thread sucks.

You suck you fucking whale.

[twisted_harmonix]

for your future reference its MC REN not MC WREN


wren is a bird:rolleyes:
bwahhahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
:D
i was waiting and waiting to see who would call him on that.

[twisted_harmonix]

this thread sucks.
then why are you still reading it?

[WhALE]

You suck you fucking whale.

pop that poof.

[WhALE]

then why are you still reading it?

I'm most definately not. Skimmin' it a tiny bit yea, like pg 1, by 2 I gave up and just see it's come to Ipods now.


Sides, I'm on your side, I just think this thread is like smashing your head into a wall.

I hate when ignorant people argue. I kill myself.

[eamon]

maybe some folks listen to one track and come to a consensus on an artists whole damn portfolio and lifes work...

Ummmmm....MF Doom anyone? You do the same thing with other artists, as do I, as does everybody else...I just find it funny how you're all about "music and creativity" and all the other stuff you said when you do the exact same thing, but to an even further extent than what people are saying about Bavgate. Look at your little title, MF DOOM assasin..how many times have you typed FUCK MF DOOM hella big?

and if i'm childish by pointing out your groupie-esque infatuation with lupe then so be it. but i can easily come up with a couple dozen west coast emcees that'll rip that fool to shreds.

Dude, your groupie-esque infatuation with Bavgate is childish. I've never seen Fullmetal start a thread about how Lupe needs to be on the radio and a bunch of other shit.

BTW

Lupe > Bavgate

and to your comment about Bavgate being a big name in a few years...:rolleyes:

I'm sure that's what he though when he was on No Limit....like 10 years ago :D

[twisted_harmonix]

I'm most definately not. Skimmin' it a tiny bit yea, like pg 1, by 2 I gave up and just see it's come to Ipods now.


Sides, I'm on your side, I just think this thread is like smashing your head into a wall.
haha... oh damn too bad you missed page 3 when the thread became absolutely phenominal.

[Fullmetal]

I just found out something, Harm, Bavgate sounds good as hell when I'm about to hit the sack (after a slim-fast of course) Might have just found me sleepytime cd of the moment. Move over Mf Doom... welcome Bavgate.

[WhALE]

I've never seen Fullmetal start a thread about how Lupe needs to be on the radio and a bunch of other shit.

that's cause Lupe already is.

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