this is fucked up: Fruity Loops question...

[WhALE]

When I click on the play button (or press the spcaebar) the play insignia turns into this " ... " and nothing plays. The moniter at the top says "waiting for input" and as soon as I move the mouse off the play button the comperter seems to forget what it's doing. I have no idea what the hell is going on, but it seems the play button has taken on another property, and so I'm like "WHAT IN THE FUCK?"

I can't play any beats, but the sounds still work when you click on them to select them for a channel.

I've never had a problem like this and I can't figure it out in the "HELP"


so if anyone (even you lurkers) know what the ellz goin' on, help me out, I'll give you shout out's on my next record, haha...

[S...]

yet another reason why hardware is king.

[WhALE]

gedattahere, haha, seriously tho, this is seriously fuckin' me up.

I don't have time in my life right now for shit like this. :confused: :(

[aueu]

to the right of the play button, theres a little keyboard icon that says "WAIT" under it. its waiting for you to use a keyboard or something. make sure its not on.


thats my guess

[complete]

fruityyloops....



hmmmmmmmmm.




couldnt tell you

[S...]

fruityyloops....



hmmmmmmmmm.




couldnt tell you

JuKnow.
http://analogik.com/_images/img_audio_mpc.jpg

[WhALE]

to the right of the play button, theres a little keyboard icon that says "WAIT" under it. its waiting for you to use a keyboard or something. make sure its not on.


thats my guess

OH YEAH!!!!! you fuckin' bastard! thank you SO much :D

fuck man, I've been working with this program for 3 years and I had no clue what was going on.

thanks man.

[evad]

OH YEAH!!!!! you fuckin' bastard! thank you SO much :D

fuck man, I've been working with this program for 3 years and I had no clue what was going on.

thanks man.

3 years wow.. maybe you should go with something simpler like this http://users.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~windle_c/TableHooters/picts/Casio%20Rapman_s.jpeg

[WhALE]

3 years wow.. maybe you should go with something simpler like this http://users.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~windle_c/TableHooters/picts/Casio%20Rapman_s.jpeg


maybe I should shit on your face. :D

[complete]

JuKnow.
http://analogik.com/_images/img_audio_mpc.jpg


you got it ther buddy oh chap.

[WhALE]

PS


62 veiws?


fuck all you lurkers.

[Mike Castillo]

Ay S... do you have a MicroKorg? I'm kinda lazy to go back in the other posts to see if you do. How is that? I got the sounds imported onto my Fruity Loops but I just use samples a heck of a lot more than I try to compose my own shit. Looking to invest in one and be more of an all around producer. Get back at me dude.

[WhALE]

^^^

http://www.accesshiphop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15572&highlight=mini+korg&f=7

[Catch Wreck]

JuKnow.
http://analogik.com/_images/img_audio_mpc.jpg


mine's on it's way to my house as we speak

[WhALE]

As murch as I'd like one, I don't need one. Fruity Loops, tho as respected as a crack head, is pretty deep and has many capabilities.

FL with some hardwear and some editing softwear is still good. Altho, I do wish I could work with more analog, digital looses a lot of bottom. A lot of feeling, like wearing a rubber when I fuck with the beats some times.

[aueu]

OH YEAH!!!!! you fuckin' bastard! thank you SO much :D

fuck man, I've been working with this program for 3 years and I had no clue what was going on.

thanks man.

ya welcome :D

whatever you do with that program dont EVER click "download live loop" i had a bad experience.

[mf sw]

When I click on the play button (or press the spcaebar) the play insignia turns into this " ... " and nothing plays. The moniter at the top says "waiting for input" and as soon as I move the mouse off the play button the comperter seems to forget what it's doing. I have no idea what the hell is going on, but it seems the play button has taken on another property, and so I'm like "WHAT IN THE FUCK?"

I can't play any beats, but the sounds still work when you click on them to select them for a channel.

I've never had a problem like this and I can't figure it out in the "HELP"


so if anyone (even you lurkers) know what the ellz goin' on, help me out, I'll give you shout out's on my next record, haha...

wouldnt know..... I dont have those type of problems with my HARDWARE sequencer.

[WhALE]

that's right, hardwear it up all you want boys, it's true, I'm to broke to even think about hardwear right now, but my beats'll still put a hurtin' on your ass (no homo)

[arrowgargantuan]

that's right, hardwear it up all you want boys, it's true, I'm to broke to even think about hardwear right now, but my beats'll still put a hurtin' on your ass (no homo)

hahaha...no they won't.

[WhALE]

just wait compadre, ju'll see.

:cool:

[arrowgargantuan]

you should just flood the market...think quantity man, thats your strongsuit.

you could put out like fuckin 30 albums throughout the course of a year...or a month...every half hour even.

[mf sw]

you should just flood the market...think quantity man, thats your strongsuit.

you could put out like fuckin 30 albums throughout the course of a year...or a month...every half hour even.

yeah, he can be like Cap from Style Wars. "My goal is MORE!"

[arrowgargantuan]

yeah, he can be like Cap from Style Wars. "My goal is MORE!"

ha..the ultimate douche.
http://www.subwayoutlaws.com/Hot110/cap_over_anthor.jpg

[mf sw]

ha..the ultimate douche.
http://www.subwayoutlaws.com/Hot110/cap_over_anthor.jpg

we can think of Whales beats as a nice big sloppy "Cap" on music in general.

I'm just kidding, I've never heard any of his beats. Everyone says they "need some work" though.

[arrowgargantuan]

we can think of Whales beats as a nice big sloppy "Cap" on music in general.

I'm just kidding, I've never heard any of his beats. Everyone says they "need some work" though.

ha..you're a real dick for that then.

i fuck with whale because i can tell he throws his shit together in 20 minutes.



nah, actually i fuck with whale because he never takes shit to heart, and i don't think he really cares what people think...i mean c'mon, listen to those beats.


jokes.

[WhALE]

hahaha, it's true, all the ones I've posted DO need work. I've always said none of the ones I posted are done.

I just post em as much as I'd like others to post. I know as a music lover nothing beats getting some new shit all the time, even if it's raw and unfinished, it inspires me. ya'll should hang onto my prelims so one day you can say "yeah I got that Whale joint back in like '04 (when I started posting beats).

eventualy I'll master enugh tracks for a "record" and I'll put it out. haha, and it won't go anywhere.

truthfuly tho, I'm just getting crap out for now, I don't care how un-done it is, it'll all come together when it's suposed to.

[legendaryliving]

have you guys seen the FPC?

Fruity loop version of the MPC...so if you have the capabilities to plug the mpc through MIDI, You can create a virtual pad bank through fruity loops I think it needs to be a MIDI file.....anyways I haven't used it but I will, I think this is new to FL5....
Put that in your hardware and smoke it



http://65.54.168.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/Photo09.jpg?curmbox=F000000001&a=425a62471460494c7b7774b73024e702&msg=MSG1115848429.1&start=3698307&len=49254&mimepart=3&disk=65.54.168.72_d335&login=lobes_1200&domain=msn%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US

[WhALE]

the picky no werky. wah wah.

[legendaryliving]

the picky no werky. wah wah.
how the fuck do I make it work?

[WhALE]

click the image link (the little mountains and sun icon above the post window)

and paste the URL of the image into the box.

If you did that, it's just a bad link... ...I'mma look it up anyway....

[highlife]

mine's on it's way to my house as we speak

what were you workin' with before, eatre? i've been meaning to check your beats but haven't got around to it yet.

[complete]

mine's on it's way to my house as we speak


shits definitely a change. builidng up drums is the biggest task. when you get an MP yuo learn the true meaning of "producer". you cant jsut get on it and make a beat. it takes time. and actually building drums that you LIKE is a whole nother story.

you a dj though. you got breaks so you shouldnt have any problem wiht that...right??????

i think the worst thing for the income challenged is always buying new zips, so waht im gonna do with this fat refund check tha t i got from school is buy a zip and hook it up to my comp and get my library in there and transport back and forth.....


same wiht my br-8..


anyone know what program i should use for this task?? particularly S... ????

help a brotha out.


i imagine you use FL or reason right????

[highlife]

how do you go through so many zips? i can see why i have to use many a floppy disk, but shouldn't a 100MB ZIP suffice for most of your beats?

the ZIP upgrade for the 60 is $300 which is too steep for me. floppies are a bit of a pain but not $300 worth upgrading!

drums are def. the hardest to master. i've got a couple strictly breaks records that i sample drum sounds off of but i can't seem to get that 'punch' ya know? they sound too low compared to my melody samples. i don't really want to have to buy a compressor, or any other equipment than i already have.

i think it may also have to do with the original low output level of the 60 to begin with. but do you guys have to tweak and edit your samples much (drums) with the 2kxl's or do they sound pretty solid after one take? like i have to always mess with my gains/trims and other eq on my vestax 06 to get the initial sample levels right. but it still kinda sounds bland/dry/quiet.

[S...]

how do you go through so many zips? i can see why i have to use many a floppy disk, but shouldn't a 100MB ZIP suffice for most of your beats?

the ZIP upgrade for the 60 is $300 which is too steep for me. floppies are a bit of a pain but not $300 worth upgrading!

drums are def. the hardest to master. i've got a couple strictly breaks records that i sample drum sounds off of but i can't seem to get that 'punch' ya know? they sound too low compared to my melody samples. i don't really want to have to buy a compressor, or any other equipment than i already have.

i think it may also have to do with the original low output level of the 60 to begin with. but do you guys have to tweak and edit your samples much (drums) with the 2kxl's or do they sound pretty solid after one take? like i have to always mess with my gains/trims and other eq on my vestax 06 to get the initial sample levels right. but it still kinda sounds bland/dry/quiet.


The right channell of my mixer is dialed in for drum samples. The left is open to any other samples that need varying EQ.

Plus, i compress my drums with the weak little compressor in acid after i track them out.

But the 2000xl bitrate sounds fine to me.

Compression and limiting is key to punchy drums.

Make your snares crack by layering the same snare slightly pitched up and down behind the initial snare. Or sample a bit of record crackle/air and lace that behind your snare for a nice reverb tail.

Swing your hats maybe 53%.... find yourself a nice open/close hate sample, and assign them to two pads, set to mono and set each one to cut the other off. This gives you a nice human touch.

[complete]

what i like to do for drums and other melodies is assign and copy the same sound to another pad. program it to go simultaneous with the original sample, then take the second one and filter out the highs. it gives it a full feeling as opposed ot the "hollow" sound you get sometimes with certain samples.

also try resampling your kicks. takes memory but it works. (geeyah s..)

i also like to sample the record crackle. put it in between the parts where you can tell that theres samples and that its empty (like on the empty notes) and use it like filler. dont take a bar sample then loop it tho. use it to tie everything together. it makes a big difference.

ima have to try that lil hi hat tip s...

i think i need to get a fliter tho. freal. i really wanna get a better board becuse i have the 8 outs on my mp and would like to jsut do stuff easy on the fly instead of un-pluggin and pluggin shit in all the time.

i jsut wanna have my shit like BOOM! nothin f'in up the creative process flow you know. that is th eway to go tho is tracking out so you can do effects much easier. i dont have the eb-16 so that is harsh when all i want is that sound. i know you can do it manually but its no the same.

[S...]

i think i need to get a fliter tho.

Get the MFC 42. A true analog filter made for the MPC. JayDilla's secret piece. I'll prolly get one soon.

http://www.akai-pro.de/produkte/fotos/mfc_mpc.jpg

Also, i use ghost notes alot as well. I'll take a hate, slow it down just a it, give it a slow attack, so it's like a "shh" sound, and lowly tap those in on 16/3.

Complete/Highlife... let me know if you need some drums.

[complete]

Get the MFC 42. A true analog filter made for the MPC. JayDilla's secret piece. I'll prolly get one soon.

http://www.akai-pro.de/produkte/fotos/mfc_mpc.jpg

Also, i use ghost notes alot as well. I'll take a hate, slow it down just a it, give it a slow attack, so it's like a "shh" sound, and lowly tap those in on 16/3.

Complete/Highlife... let me know if you need some drums.


is that a new one or is that the same ol one that ive always seen?? they had one at guitar center but it was still like three bones used or out of box.

man the non weed slangage has definitely affected my life in a non-positive way. a lot less money and a lot less groupie hoes haaha

that sounds pretty dope though..ill listen for it in your next trizzack that you post sometime..


man u know i could use some drums but i aint tryin to cramp your steez

[S...]

It's the same one they've always had. But it's one of the best stand-alone analog filters you can buy. Pete Rock, Jay Dee... etc.

I got plenty dude, i don't care. Just EQ 'em different.

Lemme know.

[highlife]

JayDilla's secret piece. Complete/Highlife... let me know if you need some drums.

i heard he uses a 3000. not sure if there is a compatibility issue with one of those things. where's your source?

re: drums, again, i think there'll be a compatibility issue that won't allow for us to exchange sounds with each other, as much as i'd like to experiment with new sounds.

you know what, i have been completely slacking on using my MP to the most of its abilities. i swear i only use 4 or 5 pads, don't even fill a complete program. i think memory has a lot to do with that, but also laziness in trying to figure out how to chop these samples and assign each individual zone to a pad. zoning is harder (so i hear) to do on the 60 than on the 2kxl but i got some instruction from some good peeps over at the mpc-forums. i just need to TRY it and DO it. right now, i kinda just mess with 16-levels and get a simple beat going. my MIDI cables should arrive shortly and then i can add some bass and other melodies with the microKORG. man, s..., this thing is SO fun! you're gonna clown when i eventually post up some beats, though. some of the presets sound ILL w/o any need for modification (i use the modulation wheel to freak it proper). but i will also modify them and start utilizing the edit functions, don't you worry! i was vibin' out to some simple chord riffs with it last night, listening in my headphones while the MP was looping a drum beat.

[WhALE]

jesus fuck!

I'm never getting an MPC, I don't want to have to learn all that.

it is analog tho right? If I ever get one, that'll be the main reason why.

Viva l'analog.

[S...]

Highlife, FUCK zoning... that shit never chops right. I do all my chopping manually.

You know if you hold shift and use the NV slider, it works a lot faster than the jog wheel for start/end point location, right?

I just take one long sample, and slice it piece by piece "section as a new sound" and manually assign the pads myself.

Yes, the microKORG is a staple, no doubt.

I think i read on TTLab about Dilla rocking the MFC42

[highlife]

no, it's digital. it's so sweet, whale, once you start figuring everything out.

i can send you come video clips sometime so you can sort of see the process. i have some clips of chopping on the 2kxl that will flip your lid. it did mine. i was like FINALLY i see how it can be used and THAT is what I wanna DO NOW!!! there is a lot to learn, but man, it's so tight to bang out your own patterns and once you get a microKORG or other keyboard involved it's just magic.

roger linn is a GOD!

check these clips from the sample kings at the bottom of the page for a short demo of using a MPC w/ a triton: http://samplekings.com/skings_tips2.htm

you might like the triton more than an MPC, though since you kinda like the synth-based beats moreso than sample-based. i'd recommend that or the ASR-10.

i might shoot for primo's famous combo of MPC 60, akai s950 sampler and an ASR-10 eventually. right now, i think the only MPC i would upgrade to would be the 3000.

[highlife]

Highlife, FUCK zoning... that shit never chops right. I do all my chopping manually.

You know if you hold shift and use the NV slider, it works a lot faster than the jog wheel for start/end point location, right?

nah, man, no shift on the 60. it is a bit more complicated than that. this guy says you gotta sample 'silence' and copy shit to temp. then paste it in your zones. it's way different (prolly more time consuming too) on the 60, but i love this thing. i WILL figure it out eventually. the basic shit i've made so far sounds good coming out the house speakers, but not when i record to my cpu. that is something i really need to look into as well.

i think you would like the 60, but maybe not so much as you're used to the 2kxl already and you'd be like aw, wtf, why can't i do it this way. plus the pads (i hear) are stiffer on the 60. they're really 'rubbery' too. but since it's the first machine i've used i love it. it feels like a real piece of hardware (as opposed to the somewhat 'toy' feel of the 2kxl i've heard from some peeps who came from using the 60).

i'll check that dis track tonight hopefully.

[S...]

Fuck that son. The 2KXL is rock solid. Steel all the way around.

I take offense when people bad mouth my children.

[highlife]

Fuck that son. The 2KXL is rock solid. Steel all the way around.

I take offense when people bad mouth my children.

oh yeah? well my 60 will tank its ass all over your minime. haha! you ever seen one? man, i really want the OG mkI, but i got the mkII. it looks a little cheesy but that's OK. the OG 60 is SO pimp!

http://www.hatbackwardz.com/mpc60.jpg

gorgeous!

http://www.synthony.com/vintage/vintage.images/mpc60II.jpg

still tight, but cheaper due to the elimination of the handrest, adjustable display and side panels. the only technical difference is the addition of the headphone jack (which isn't even that important). i still love her.

here's another pic of someone with both the 60 and the 2kxl:

http://gallery.smartbrother.org/albums/studio/aae.sized.jpg


i like how the 60 has those tank side panels. s..., do you sit down when you use yours or stand up? i stand at the moment but i will have it so i can sit down when i move to my new place in sept. i'm so stoked, brahski.

[S...]

The 60 IS a tank, i can't even perpetrate.

But the 2KXL owns on functionality. There's a reason Mr. Linn (aka Jesus) kept revamping the platform.

I stand and sit. If i'm banging out a hard drum beat, i'll stand up to get my velocity on point. Whilst slicing and the like, i remain seated.

[highlife]

There's a reason Mr. Linn (aka Jesus) kept revamping the platform.

uh, linn didn't work on anything but the 60 and the 3000. akai ditched him to make the 2kxl cheaper (so they didn't have to pay him for input, and hence no sig on the rest of the models).

goddamn, look how fucking suhweet this 3k is:

http://www.sanyo-densi.com/dai2/akai_mpc3000_001.JPG


:eek:

[S...]

uh, linn didn't work on anything but the 60 and the 3000. akai ditched him to make the 2kxl cheaper (so they didn't have to pay him for input, and hence no sig on the rest of the models)


I've been learned! I had no idea.

I think you may know the history a little better than i do. And thats saying a lot, because i'm FAIRLY knowledgable about the history of drum machines in general.

props on the tidbit (nh)

[highlife]

I've been learned! I had no idea.

I think you may know the history a little better than i do. And thats saying a lot, because i'm FAIRLY knowledgable about the history of drum machines in general.

props on the tidbit (nh)

i tell you man, those folks over at the mp forum KNOW THEIR SHIT (and make sure to school you in the process!). VERY knowledgeable geeks over there. but as we've pointed out, sometimes very closedminded to anything BUT the old school way of doing things. in the couple months since i've been posting over there i've increased my general drum machine knowledge tenfold.

man, i'm not sure about the 2kxl but, still, i'm sure these guys could offer their services if you ever need a repair. hopefully i (we) won't ever need any serious work on our machines but if we do i'll know who to ask. the backlight on my 60 is nearly deaded. that's one thing i'm hoping won't have anymore problems with is the age of my parts. everything is expensive on these classic machines.

too bad you're not homies with panama anymore. wasn't he the one workin' at that graphics shop? have you seen some of the paint jobs forat does? the prices are INSANE! but he does to great work. i would either a) stick with the classic scheme or b) do a black/grey scheme on mines. what about you?

check the portfolio:

http://www.forat.com/service/

a lot of those jobs are so cheesy IMO. straight janky. check mel man's football-themed 3000. like, wtf?

quik knows wassup. i like the maroon/maple combo:

http://www.forat.com/pictures/mpc/Quik.jpg

[S...]

Yes, i've seen forat... (too many times)

I'd probably rock matte black with green pads!

Yeah.. Panama worked at a print shop. And charged us 5 bucks a shirt. The homie DJ Fuse works at a print shop and charges us a buck a shirt, and we don't have to buy the shirt.

Just another example of his hoeishness.

I've left my MPC on for days on end (STUPID) so i worry about my backlight.

There's some bad nicks in the paint around the volume knob where i've rubbed of the paint.

I installed my memory myself (super easy)... and dented the bottom case a bit.

Otherwise (besides having charachter and actually looking like it's used for it's purpose) my shit is straight.

You bought used, no?

[S...]

Just so you know, i could talk about MPC's ALL DAY LONG.

No lie.

[highlife]

You bought used, no?

yeah, from a very cool local Dj/producer who's been in the game for a grip. really cool guy i always heard about but never met. he's set on his ASR-10.

i told him i'd send beats his way as soon as i make a CD.

it was a really great deal, but looking back i was a little eager-beaver and scooped it up without getting what i really wanted (the OG mkI). it does have a few dings and scratches on the corners and on the bottom case (i'd agree with him that it's in fair condition). no biggie, really. everything works and i'm happy with it.

that's what you get when you buy something used from 1989! the OGs are even harder to come by! especially ones that are near mint. often times the handrest is ripped or worn. i think around 1,500 were made. i'm sure lots have been thrown away by some bastards!

i really wanna keep this thing and dedicate myself to mastering it. i had no idea the extent to which you can use this thing to create music. and i want to prove myself and make some bangers.

soon come.

[highlife]

Just so you know, i could talk about MPC's ALL DAY LONG.

No lie.

REAL TALK. i think i may be catching a little heat from the ole' jobby job. i didn't do shit today.

until manans. peace.

[S...]

i really wanna keep this thing and dedicate myself to mastering it. i had no idea the extent to which you can use this thing to create music. and i want to prove myself and make some bangers.

soon come.


Yesh. Only this year have i really started to use mine to it's FULL potential. I use literally EVERY feature on mine, and that really makes it worth while to me.

If it had a multi-track recorder built in, i wouldn't need shit else but the microKORG.

Just give it time and dedication. You'll get quick with the commands too. You should see me cook a track up on mines now. In fact, i should make a video! That beat i used for the Panama Diss LITERALLY ( i swear to GOD) took me 10 minutes to make. From wax to finished beat.

You will pick it up, i can tell you right now. Your level of dedication is higher than most.

[complete]

I've left my MPC on for days on end (STUPID) so i worry about my backlight.


thats what i used to do before i installed my zip which was also very easy.


if u wanna leave it on, jsut hold shift and turn the trim wheel down. that will dim the backlight until oit is turned off... ;)

[TheadoreStriker]

The right channell of my mixer is dialed in for drum samples. The left is open to any other samples that need varying EQ.

Plus, i compress my drums with the weak little compressor in acid after i track them out.

But the 2000xl bitrate sounds fine to me.

Compression and limiting is key to punchy drums.

Make your snares crack by layering the same snare slightly pitched up and down behind the initial snare. Or sample a bit of record crackle/air and lace that behind your snare for a nice reverb tail.

Swing your hats maybe 53%.... find yourself a nice open/close hate sample, and assign them to two pads, set to mono and set each one to cut the other off. This gives you a nice human touch.
Do you just wanna make some beats and put my name on em...
super secrets revealed..."the press behind the S.."

[Mike Castillo]

quik knows wassup. i like the maroon/maple combo:

http://www.forat.com/pictures/mpc/Quik.jpg

Actually it's Valentino Red.